Bachem Ba 349 Natter
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1 5 January 2016, 21:06
Erik LeijdensSmall aircraft, large launch tower. Will not not fit in the display case.. Inspired in making this kit when i saw Arne's Natter.
5 January 2016, 21:10
Martien LourensNatter.....Niet zo mijn ding. 🙂 Maar zal er zeker goed uit zien. Veel bouw plezier.
5 January 2016, 23:07
Erik LeijdensIndeed it is Christian. The Natter itself is very small but it comes in a large box because of the tower, so the choice for building this one is a practical choice... more space in the closet for new kits 😄!
7 January 2016, 20:07
arne vd burghave fun building mate!
Mine is done ,have to take some pictures and post them.
7 January 2016, 20:17
Christian Meyerhoff🙂 Erik
When building the tower keep care of the etched wing support rails. Because of their length they are hard to bend and to allign to the tower. Build the Natter first and then use it as a template for the rails. You will end up with a Natter that perfectly sits in her bed.
Good luck mate!
BTW: Same advice for the etched ladders...
7 January 2016, 21:07
Erik LeijdensThanks Christian will take your advice in account 👍.
What do you think about the nose of M17? Dragon suggests the smooth nose, but when i look at pictures of the M17(the yellow version as on the box) it seems the nose was the other version with the "hump".
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7 January 2016, 21:34
Christian MeyerhoffWell Erik I will check my references and come back to You. I think the nose with the bumper is the right one.
Do You know this one?
amazon.de/erste-bema..452249446&sr=1-2
8 January 2016, 10:39
Erik LeijdensDo not know that book Christian, looks like a nice one. I only have Waffen Arsenal 118 and X planes of the 3rd reich..
What do you think about the colour? Some say RLM5, others say RLM4.
9 January 2016, 15:11
Erik LeijdensCame across a nice reference drawing of the differences of the various Ba 349's, since I'm making a unmanned prototype version, the M17, this Natter is Ba349V. So the elevons needed to be shortened. Had read that in a review of this kit but I thought it was only for the small horizontal pieces.
9 January 2016, 20:23
Christian MeyerhoffWell Erik... please give me Your email adress and I will make some scanns out of this book. All further posts please as PM ( copyright and so on ...)
9 January 2016, 20:31
arne vd burgBoxart from the kit would be a rlm 4 ,museum piece would be more a rlm 5 .
I think the Rlm 5 would fit the best .
9 January 2016, 21:32
MoJoHi Erik, I have this book
amazon.de/deutschen-..hen+raketenflugzeuge
I think this is an good reverenz Pictures in there, four good detail pic from the nose.
11 January 2016, 20:12
Tolga ToykocFantastic kit and great job. Now I have to chase the same kit. =)
20 January 2016, 07:58
Erik LeijdensThanks mates, it will indeed be a impressive model when done. Or at least i hope so 👍
20 January 2016, 20:18
Martien LourensLooks very impressive with the tower, Erik. So far.....So good.
21 January 2016, 08:35
Rob van DodewaardWay to go Erik love the build but I would hate to be the guy yo climb that tower let alone fly that plane.
Looking forward to finished model
21 January 2016, 09:03
Soeren R.Really nice work! Saw this kit in at my local store yesterday and was really tempted to buy it 🙂
21 January 2016, 09:54
Curtis CadenThis is certainly an eye-catching model. There is nothing like a tower!
21 January 2016, 13:56
Erik LeijdensAdded the PE launch rails today, 6 pieces of 16cm long stubborn PE.. Must be bent in a U-shape but so that posed a problem for me. Luckily my friend Rob let me use his PE bender 👍
14 February 2016, 21:02
Christian MeyerhoffVery well done! Bending this Pe`s is the biggest problem of this kit. 👍
14 February 2016, 21:07
Erik LeijdensI noticed that 😄. It made me resume my Fokker that was on the shelf of Doom. Luckily a PE bender did the trick, although it was not easy too
14 February 2016, 21:20
Erik LeijdensGave the tower a coat of RLM02, did not know what colour it should be but on the box art it looks like RLM02. Spraying the tower was quite a challenge since most paint flew around it😄. Natter is painted in RLM04 with a drop of grey. On the photos it looks bright yellow but that is because of the mobile phone i think. After a matt coat it will look much nicer i hope 👍
29 February 2016, 21:20
Erik LeijdensTime to mask the pattern on the wings, Dragon supplied a decal for that but not a very good one. 5 beams on each wing but as can be seen on my last picture of the album it should be 6 on the left and 5 on the right. And what color? Blue as suggested by Dragon or black as think is more accurate? Anybody with a suggestion?
2 March 2016, 20:38
Wim van der LuijtDon't worry about the yellow, it's a machine for single use so it's bound to look shiny and new. Shame about the decal, that will be a pain in the ass to mask yourself
3 March 2016, 13:16
Choppa Nuttamind you if it was used a second time the weathering might need to be pretty severe😉 😄
3 March 2016, 14:18
Curtis CadenI'm not one who should probably voice his opinion about colors but I tend to follow box instructions over my own research. In this case though maybe there is a third possibility and that is to do a dark blue with some black in it getting that midnight color. I have not been able to successfully create my own grey-blue or black-blue so I often use my Model Master 1772 Blue Angel Blue. I am posting because I look forward to reading others comments.
3 March 2016, 14:51
Erik LeijdensHmm I still tend to black, since yellow/black are colors used for high visibility. I mean, the stripes are used for better determination if the plane is upside down or not when seen from the ground. So why not use a high contrast color like black on yellow? However, a dark blue should have have the same contrast difference..
3 March 2016, 21:06
Bart GoesaertI can follow Erik, also made the thought, what about red, because it tends to appear as black in black and white photo's, but nowadays visual reference points for tests are also in black/white or black/yellow...
On the other side, found some pictures of a museum model with on both sides the 5 stripes, so I guess Dragon got their mustard from there...
4 March 2016, 08:22
Erik LeijdensThanks Jan and Kees! And Bart you are right about the red. But I think i will stick to black. The museum piece in München also displays it in black and i think a museum like that knows where "Abraham gets it's mustard" 😄 Think it will look cool too, black on yellow.
4 March 2016, 19:57
Erik LeijdensFinally managed to make the streaks on the wings..was not very easy, used a lot of tape on failed attempts. Quite happy with the result, not perfect but it works for me now. On the wing-fuselage connection the paint has crawled under the tape but that's ok, the wooden wings brackets that are used to launch the Natter will cover that 🙂
8 March 2016, 20:27
Erik LeijdensNatter and tower finished, now I need to make some sort of small dio to display the tower on. A snowy scene since this Natter was launched from of a snowy Germany in dec '44. Never made a dio/vignette before so I wonder wonder what I can make of it 🙂
17 March 2016, 11:09
Martien LourensI think your wife is very happy with it. It looks ..... gigantisch.
Maybe a little help.
Youtube Video
17 March 2016, 11:28
Wim van der LuijtLooks really good, the yellow looks fine under a matt coat. Like the tower a lot too!........may be some more pics of the finished article?
17 March 2016, 18:34
Erik LeijdensThanks mates! There are still al couple of small things to do but it's finished for about 99%. Made a better picture for you Wim 😄! Also quite hard to take a decent picture of the complete package. When it's completely finished i will make some pictures of the Natter itself.
17 March 2016, 20:36
Wim van der LuijtSceneryworkshop.nl look for krycel if you want snow and ice. Never used it but the pics look good
17 March 2016, 21:52
Choppa Nuttavery Erik !! 🙂
liking that a lot, one very cool set piece !!
I hadn't twigged earlier but it's an unmanned test version ?
anyhow, looks great 👍 🙂
17 March 2016, 23:10
Erik LeijdensThanks mates! Yes Choppa it is a unmanned prototype 👍
And thanks Martien and Wim for providing me info how to make snow but recently i was at a modelling fest in Antwerp, bought some "snow" there 🙂
18 March 2016, 20:24
Rob van DodewaardWas ook in antwerpen maar zo koud was het toch niet. Daar geen sneeuwvgehad
18 March 2016, 21:01
Christian BruerFragile launch tower even in quarterscale. Colorful and unique bird 👍
20 March 2016, 13:12
Erik LeijdensFinally finished! When I started this kit I thought it was a quick build since it is a small rocket fighter... The tower became quite a challenge so I'm VERY glad I finished it...
On to a new project!! 😄
24 March 2016, 19:58
arne vd burgYou did a stunning job mate , well done.
The base looks very good to .
24 March 2016, 20:11
Erik Leijdens43cm's Guido! Needed to lower a glass plate in the display cabinet to fit in🙂
Thanks mates!
24 March 2016, 20:48
Jens ValkeneersI read on modelbrouwers that the grass would be to green. But I think it gives a nice colour touch! Well done!!
24 March 2016, 21:23
Rob van DodewaardWel for what it is worth dont listen to the other forumit is simply a masterpeice. But maybe just maybe are you sure that the snow must be white.(LOL)
Seriously they are just nitpickng in my opinion
24 March 2016, 22:13
Wim van der LuijtA piece to be proud of Erik! I like that the base is small, makes you focus on the tower
25 March 2016, 08:13
Choppa NuttaErik, well done, great final reveal 👍
you've really brought this one to life ! 🙂
25 March 2016, 22:16
Album info
Starting this little rocket fighter with a BIG launch tower.
