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Kyle DeHart
Started a photo album for the project.

Kyle DeHart
Got engines built and installed into frames. This ancient kit is showing its age on the molds, and instructions and basically everything. Certainly Not for beginners but I'm not doing a serious build and will muddle through it just fine without getting too worked up.

Kyle DeHart
Front suspension mounted to chassis of the factory T and rear suspension dry fit. Then dry fit the fenders for fun. There's a ton of black on your average model T. Mine will be an interpretation of the factory "commercial green" for the body and truck bed.

Jv
Looking very good

Bozzer
Definitely brings back memories

Kyle DeHart
Got the factory T on its wheels and fenders on. I tried to break up the blacks a little with some greens and grays but it mostly just looks dark in pictures. Some nice contrast in real life though. A note to anyone building this kit. My torque tube was not long enough to center the rear wheels under the rear wheel arches. They ended up too far forward. I just added a small piece to the rear of the transmission to push the centerline of the rear end back just a hair. Seems to have worked well enough.

Jv
Thanks for the info on how to solve problems whed rear akel
And whed the colours
Just remember Ford would give you any colour you like as long as it's black lol

Kyle DeHart
No problem Jv. Seems like it could be a common issue with this kit. Isn't a complicated fix but it makes it look a lot better. I Put up a pic of the new axle position now.

Tom ...
👀

Kyle DeHart
Hi Tom, welcome!

Jv
Yes a bit desapointing if its out
Can up put up pics of how you fixed it
The porcshe 959 from Tamiya I think has same problem

Christian W
Stock 🙂 Sweet. The model kit box doesn't expect, that there is the "regualr" kit in with all it's tuning and customizing options included.

Kyle DeHart
Christian, I honestly had no idea when I bought this kit that it was actually two entire kits. I just thought the model T hot rod would be cool to build!

Kyle DeHart
Jv, I added a picture of my simple modification. I found a small circular part in my stash of unused stuff (I believe it may have been an ignition coil). I shaved it down, drilled the center and then inserted it into the back of the trans where the torque tube goes. Then I inserted the torque tube into my new piece. I circled it on the picture I added. The torque tube is the gray piece on the left, the transmission is the gloss black piece to the right and the small piece between them is my mod. Easy enough and I'll touch it up with some black to blend it right in.

Kyle DeHart
Also got some headway on the hot rod. Blown Lincoln 430 dropped into the chassis and suspension put into place. This car has a bit more color to it than the stock T, that's for sure.

James C
👀👍

Kyle DeHart
Welcome to my twin build circus James!

Kyle DeHart
Body mounted to the stock frame assembly and seat, peddles and parking brake lever attached. Still need to do some detail painting such as the wood bed but we're getting there.

Kyle DeHart
And now we have two model Ts with bodies. On the chopped coupe I used the rear of the orange tinted glass with the clear front windshield. Simply because I though the orange glass was cool and when would I get another chance to use that. But who wants to look through orange glass as they're driving

Jv
Looking great sofare

Kyle DeHart
Thanks Jv. Coming together.

Christian W
This is a quite interessting color choice for the choppen T. Nothing fancy 😄 Super!

Jv
Just got another kit abit the same
2 in one from revell

Tom ...
Kyle, we want airbrushed flames all over the body. we expect nothing less 😄 !

Christian W
Expect and await 😄

Kyle DeHart
Hahaha. Thanks guys. Tom, airbrushed flames would fit this old nostalgia hot rod perfectly. Alas, I have no airbrush. I'm firmly encamped on the rattle can side of things. Have to look through the decal graveyard and see what I can come up with.

Kyle DeHart
Factory T now at 90% complete. Top down enjoying a day off work…perhaps a Sunday cruise. Detailed the wonderfully placed under seat fuel tank with a brass cap and straps. Wood bed and headlights also installed.

As for the chopped T. Flames it is. Lol. And a touch of pinstriping on the duck tail. It's Also nearing the end. Should be able to knock these the rest of the way out tomorrow.

Jv
Looking great my new kit is a 1/8 scale
2in 1 but only the hotrod

Rui S
Shiny 👍

Christian W
Cute 🙂

Kyle DeHart
Thanks guys. Nearing the end now!

Kyle DeHart
Both of these cross the finish line. Really had a lot of fun with both of these little kits. Not much to say other than that. Some tricky fitting pieces and a ton of flash to clean off but they turn out pretty cool!

James C
Nice work 👍

Kyle DeHart
Thank you James!

Jv
Congratulations on your butiful result

Tom ...
Nicely done, Kyle. They came out really great!

No chance you'll try airbrushing? It is quite a journey to get decent with it but I do love the results now. It's like its own hobby really.

Kyle DeHart
Thanks Jv.

Thanks Tom! I had fun with this…I have gone back and forth with the airbrush thing quite a bit. There are a lot of benefits, to be sure. And I'd imagine it's very satisfying once you get it down. Just not sure if I want to add another hobby to my hobby. 😂 I've only considered getting one about 100 times or so, just haven't talked myself into it yet. Maybe I will down the road one day.

Tom ...
Totally understand. It can be a rabbit hole for sure and the results you have are great.

Kyle DeHart
I appreciate the kind words!

Rui S
Didn't you use an airbrush? 😮 Can you explain your technic to achieve such a nice shiny result with brushes?

Kyle DeHart
Thank you for the compliment about my finish! I've never owned an airbrush or even touched one. Rattle cans, my friend. I've been using them since I first started model building. I use the hairy stick to do all detail painting and painting of small parts, but all the body work and big stuff I shoot with rattle cans. Nothing special at all.

Christian W
So do I. I'm familiar with airbrush too but I'm preferring rattle cans. "Quick and dirty" 😄
I use my airbrush mostly with clear coat or when I have a couple of part of different kits to be painted in several colors. Mostly black flat and semi gloss, aluminum, iron. Only for the big parts like chassis and interior tube.
If I use the airbrush then not only for a handful of parts. The benefit sometime is to less on my point of view. When the preparation and cleaning takes more time than the brushing 🙂, then I take rattle cans.
The only collection I completely paint with airbrush are my silver Corvette. Just to be sure that the body color has the same color. By using rattle can it could be a small different by changing the can from one to another.

Bozzer
Evening gentlemen. Just to add my thoughts...
I was an avid rattle can man, and I had some great results with them, back in the day. However, for shells and bodies, large stuff, etc, I wanted an airbrush, for the numerous colours, that you couldn't get? It took me a while, to find my own techniques and get everything right, but now it's second nature. I basically love the control, and the lack of wasted paint. Yes, I still screw up, but that's because of my own stupidity, not the equipment. People talk about the cleaning up after, but I just run some cellulose thinner through all my airbrushes, and that's it. Maybe once a month, I'll strip them down, for a thorough clean, but that depends on usage? But, I definitely think that a decent airbrush, is the key. My Badger 360, was the best investment that I ever made. I also have the Badger Rage, for my detail stuff, a Neo, and a couple of cheap Chinese copies, for clear coating, etc. And definitely, I still tinker with the hairy stick, for the finer details. I hope this helps you all?

Kyle DeHart
Christian, Bozzer, I appreciate the insights. I definitely see the advantages in color control, wasted paint, custom colors and all that. I'm not against an airbrush by any means. Just isn't something I'm ready to add to my arsenal yet. But I never rule it completely out for the future! I'll never give up my hairy stick though. Lol

bossy122
Here lately, my TS sprays have been setting with flat areas in them. I don't know if the paint is old or what. The thing I find with an airbrush is less paint getting under the masking tape since I can control the air pressure, where as with the can, it's like blasting your model with a fire extenguisher. But I certainly understand hating the clean up of an airbrush. The cup alone takes 10 minutes, then the feed, then the pin.....and with me, I have to clean all the shit off the airbrush itself....and by then, the garage is a cloud of thinner....awful.

Kyle DeHart
I've had some dud cans from Tamiya as well bossy. Had a silver one that did extremely odd things. Eventually for a decent coat down but it was quite wasteful. And I'm really not a very good modeler, I even use krylon and rustoleum cans from the big box stores every now and then if I Like a color. Always worked ok for me. Anyways, like I said, I know the benefits of the airbrush are there, I still just can't bring myself to add that to my hobby at the moment. It's a limiting factor but one I can live with so far.

Neuling
Very nice Models T !

Kyle DeHart
Thanks Neuling!

Ethan981
How did you add more then one image but besides that very nice car

Kyle DeHart
Should be an option when you create an album to select images. I post from my cell phone and it gives access to my photo albums in my phone and I just select which ones I want.

Bozzer
Jeez, I nearly wet my pants, when I logged on!
This was an amazing build! Nice to see it back, on my newsfeed!
Hey Kyle, ya plastic fantastic. How's it going, over there? What's in the pumps???

Kyle DeHart
Well I've been doing tolerably well Bozzer. No real complaints. Have t had a lick of bench time of late. Just working and working on the old homestead. Hoping it slows down soon. Hope you're doing well, my friend.

bughunter
I like the green one more - it looks like a car Laurel and Hardy used in a movie 👍

Kyle DeHart
Thanks Frank! I actually like the green one more as well. This entire thing is ancient tooling but they did a good job on it for the time. I'd like to do some more Model T builds, either this kit or the modern ICM stuff and I plan on getting an ICM model A too. Love the classics.

Bozzer
Any more work done, on your Rolls Royce, mate???

Kyle DeHart
Tiny tiny bit. Engine is basically done. I need to get back on that. Paint the body and interior and it won't take long at all. Oh. And finish lacing those wheels. Ha!!

Sy Bar
This will be Flight Lieutenant Eric James Brindley Nicolson's, VC aircraft in which he won Fighter Commands only WWII VC

Sy Bar
Sergeant John Hannah VC was, at 18 the youngest aircrew to win the VC

gorby
I remember building this kit as a kid, so I'm interested to see what you can do with it. It's about time Airfix retooled it.

Sy Bar
I'm still trying to improve my "sanding" pre-shade technique, I think it works best with lacquer paints as they stick much better to the exposed plastic than any other type. As this will join my other VC tributes it will be on a pedestal so I'm happy enough with the underside - no competition winner but ok as will not be seen but was good practice with black

Sy Bar
Time for more practice with doing my own masks based on the decal sheet. I intend to cover these with a blank which I now know should be a fraction smaller than the outer ring thus preventing a gap showing up, either that or I should spray the outer ring colour larger which seams to be the same idea only different😆. If any one with better knowledge on the best way you should approach spraying roundels please advise 👍

David Taylor
Watching.

Ben M
Seems like if you painted the roundel after the base color you wouldn't have the gap problem?

Sy Bar
You're welcome David.

Ben, sometimes I miss the trees for the woods, you have a simple solution 👍. To try and make me seam a little less foolish I think I was trying to ensure I didn't get any sign of the camo marks in the roundels and in doing so have over complicated my life 🤪

Ben M
I looked at how I did it the one time I tried it and I did the opposite, I painted the roundel first but didn't mask the edge round. Then I masked the whole thing with a tape circle PVA-KNIL Deperdussin-Léon de Brouckère Monoplane | Album by Bourgeois Detailism (1:48)

I try to come up with a plan where every edge is only masked once of that makes sense.

Sy Bar
@Ben That's a great looking build you did there. thats the kind of thing I was going for but I tend to confuse my small bear brain as can be seen by the extra yellow ring above (pic 15) that should have been white 🤪

Villiers de Vos
Very realistic.

Vincent
Very Nice. I like the yellow wings.

Chris Church
Really well done.

Rick402
How is the fit?

Neuling
A masterpiece.

Michael Kohl
Like it a lot.

Scott
Thank you for the kind comments! Rick, the fit of the larger parts (wings, fuselage, floats, canopy) in my kit was good. The fit of the small parts in the kit was not great. A lot of the small parts had to be trimmed and sanded in some way. There are a lot of small parts. Securing the engine cowl and a fitting a lot of the small parts of the engine was very fiddly. In the end though it did go together and came out decently

Landlubber Mike
Wow, really nicely done Scott! Love the yellow wings and the color modulation you performed on the model. Looks really great!

James C
Stunning looking build 👍

Rui S
Excellent paint job 👍

Scott
Thank you all. It was a bit of a complex build. Your kind comments are appreciated!

Neil
WOW! 😲

Jacquline Le
I love the dry paint effect, how did you do it?

John
That's a beauty with an eye-catching paint job 👍 Great details too, love the engine.

Alex Dovzhanyn
Looks amazing. Great job on that canopy.

Guy Rump
Great result! 👍

Paul Moore
Great Kingfisher! Thanks for the excellent photos.

Bohrmann
👀 Following !

Finn
Looking good, will follow

Dave Flitton
Watching

Guy Rump
Following too! 👍

Rui S
A Beauty 👍

Dave
Very nice job. Looks good 👍

Géza Szekér
Thank you Rui S and Dave!

Neuling
Good small scale build! 👍

Guy Rump
Lovely job! 👍

Géza Szekér
THX Neuling and Guy!

Pietro De Angelis
Beautiful!

Bohrmann
Turned out very nice, Well done.

Rui S
Great Paintjob 👍 I'm in 😎

Villiers de Vos
Very nice detailed work on the engine.

Neuling
Looking forward ........

Roland Sachsenhofer
First pictures of the first steps in the construction of a B-17G, whose mission role particularly appealed to me: I had long been fascinated by the sea rescue missions of this B-17 equipped with a droppable lifeboat! So I was delighted when I found one of the rare kits on the subject here on scalemates.
A few months ago I had already built an Academy 'Flying Fortress' in an early B version, the kit qualities of which I thoroughly enjoyed. The accuracy of fit is not far from 'perfect' and the details that are often missing in these Academy kits have to be added wherever it is important. In this case that means A set of etched parts for the cockpit and nose area, as well as an exterior set, especially for the engines and undercarriage, and resin tyres, also from Eduard. Not to forget: the seat cushions from Kits World were used in the cockpit

Łukasz Gliński
Lucky you! Following

Finn
I'm in

Roland Sachsenhofer
That makes me happy, Łukasz and Finn!
The SB-17G is slowly taking shape. The V-position of the wings needs to be changed: in my opinion, Academy has set a much too steep angle here! The corrected position of the wings also results in the distances at the wing-fuselage bonding points.... the fit here would be excellent!

Juergen Klinglhuber
following 👍

Roland Sachsenhofer
Das freut mich! 🙂

Roland Sachsenhofer
In preparation for the surface colours, I have now done the following: I have masked those stripes over the black primer that are to remain visible as black lines separating the NMF surfaces from the large yellow zones using suitably wide Tamiya masking tape. I also masked the areas on the leading edges that carry the rubber 'de-icers'.
Next, the anti-glare areas in front of the cockpit and on the inside of the engine nacelles are sprayed, then.... then come the Alclad metal colours!

Cuajete
Great! 👍

Roland Sachsenhofer
Thank you!
There was not much to see of the SB-17 for a short time - the application of the yellow required extensive masking!

Villiers de Vos
Very nice progress. I hope that there is no bleeding with that yellow paint 🙂

Robert Podkoński
Somehow I have missed this build... But I will follow from now!

Roland Sachsenhofer
Thank you Villiers and Robert! Indeed, I had to sand over the colour edges a little....

Roland Sachsenhofer
At last I can replace the unattractive sanitary towel pictures of the SB-17 with ones that show their true appearance! 🙂
The new pictures are already close: the high gloss level comes from the sealing of the decals.... now it will be adjusted with different clear coats.

Cuajete
Very nice painting job so far 👍

Roland Sachsenhofer
Thank you, Cuajete!

Łukasz Gliński
Love that colours, waiting for the details

Michael Kohl
Ahh, this is going to be a beauty.

Juergen Klinglhuber
nice one,....👍

Rui S
Looking Great as always 👍

Roland Sachsenhofer
Łukasz, Jürgen, Michael and Rui: thank you for your motivating comments!

Roland Sachsenhofer
Now the sea rescue SB-17 has been completed!
A final challenge was the attachment of the lifeboat: as the original photos show, the gunwale should be more or less flush with the underside of the B-17, but this was impossible to achieve with the moulds of the kit boat! I have now created a new gunwale with Tamiya masking tape and painted it yellow after cutting it to size. After that, and with careful adjustments, I was able to fit the boat correctly.

I am very pleased to have found this kit here on scalemates from a colleague, so that I have been able to realise an old dream: I have always been very enthusiastic about this version! Thank you for your input and your motivating comments!

Cuajete
Top job one more time. Great result, Roland 👍
Congrats!

bughunter
Great build with perfect masking and painting!

Crazy! The sailors might first lose their ship and then be bombarded with a boat!
Seriously, how did they drop the boat exactly where it was needed? Flying low? With a parachute?

Roland Sachsenhofer
Thank you both! That is very appreciated! I am attaching a very descriptive link that could answer your question....

planehistoria.com/sb-17/

Robert Podkoński
Beautiful model and photos, Roland! As always from your workshop... Chapeau bas!

Skyhiker
It looks like it's wearing a yellow sweater. Top job as always.

Łukasz Gliński
Fabulous, I'm in envy 👍 Wish I could get this boxing too

Rui S
Beautiful outcome as always 👍

Villiers de Vos
Fantastic work. A real head turner.

gorby
Amazing work!

Michael Kohl
Turned out as beautifully as expected.

Neuling
A masterpiece.

Skyhiker
Still seeing a yellow sweater vest here. Like a nerd plane that saves people's lives.

Pietro De Angelis
Another masterpiece,
mr. Roland no longer surprises us...

Roland Sachsenhofer
Now I can thank you for all your animating and motivating reactions, mates! I am very pleased that you like the 'B-17 in the yellow sweater'! (Thanks for the marvellous association, Skyhiker!) I'm sure you can imagine how pleased and motivated I am - thank you!
What I'm looking for now is a conversion option for a passenger-carrying variant, which I also find unusual and, well , cool.

S B
Very interesting subject and perfectly bult and painted! Very nice job. Congrats.

Chris Greathouse
Holy smokes dude! I love the details! the extended cab and custom fenders are looking amazing, adding LEDs aways is cool. I'm sitting in on this one!

Bryn Crandell
WOW! This really is a work of art. Watching this one.

Bozzer
Thanks guys. Progress is slow, because I have a few others I'm trying to finish, but you will see more results soon. Work tries to get in the way, but I'm on the job. This is a great kit, I recommend it to everybody.

Glenn
Always nice to see a truck getting built especially if it's being customized. If i was doing something like this i would also lower it's ride height make it hug the ground. Make it a really cool ride.

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Chris Greathouse
Those are some sexy trucks Glenn.

Glenn
I think they also double as snowplows!

Bozzer
Glenn, I'm an ass! I would love to learn how to do that, but I need more physical evidence. I'm really trying buddy, but being on the other side of the pond, is a pain. I get what you are saying bro, but my visits are limited to twice a year. However, USA rocks!!!

Chris Greathouse
Bozz, your truck is already looking sexy and cool. Love the shape of the fenders. and personally I like not worrying that I may high-center over speed bumps 😄 lol

Bozzer
Lol, I was discussing lowering it, with a buddy of mine. Maybe the next one, will get some lowering treatment? I really like those front fenders. I might try to make one. I love getting creative.

Martin Oostrom
Nice!

Nigel Chapman
Hey just seen this, looks great so far

Bill Newcomer
following

Bozzer
I'm going to be getting this project moving again over the next few days. Now that the man cave is built and things are in, I'm just testing out the painting and temperature. I still have to make my custom spray booth, but I'm a little concerned about the temperature at the moment. Tests are ongoing, as i type. Unfortunately, the WiFi was something I didn't factor in, so I'm also on the lookout for some kind of booster. Keep watching.

Bill Newcomer
Bozzer, get a "wireline" Wifi extender. A couple of boxes that plug into outlets and cable to you router, then use the AC wires in the house to extend the data link to the farthest reaches of the house. Layout like this: Modem -> Fast router with Wifi -> cat 5 or 6 to wireline adapter -> house wiring -> 2nd wireline adapter -> cat 5 or 6 -> any old working Wifi router -> Wfi devices at other end of the house.

Glenn
Holy Truck! This has progressed well. I like the purple colour and the LED's Glad to see you lengthened the chassis. And that's quite some apartment your adding onto the cab! I have 3 of the Italeri 378's now to build. I've also picked up 3 Peterbilt 389 Long bonnet conversion kits these look much better than the short nose 378 version Italeri did. These are 3D printed and come with the modern 389 headlights very fine 3D print hardly any print lines visible just a light sand needed. Got them from ebay also brought a full cab and rear body section for the heavily modified Peterbilt Shockwave Jet powered show truck powered by 3 x J34 jet engines! All nicely 3D printed but without the tubular chassis i have to hand make that! I'll scale up the old 1/32 scale AMT kit version as a basis for the design.
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Nigel Chapman
That interior looks great so far. Clever use Lottery cards for the fittings. I hope you didn't use a winning card!

Bozzer
Lol Nigel, you know me, mate. If i can use something that's in abundance, then I'm all over it. Little side note though. They have a clear coating on them, so light sand them, before trying to glue or paint them. It's also possible to split them, to make them thinner, if you use a sharp knife.

Nigel Chapman
Amazing what mundane items can be used for modelling

Bozzer
I treated myself to a 3D printer, Nigel. Obviously, i have great ideas! In real life though, it's not as easy as you may think? So every print, is a learning experience. Just imagine going back to an airfix 1/72 plane, and a penknife? I started off feeling like Einstein, and realised that I'm a dinosaur! Everyday is a school day though

Nigel Chapman
Good luck with the printer. It's something I have considered but also being in the Dinosaur camp, it's the software that confounds me. Perhaps you should start a new thread on your 3D adventures.

Bill Newcomer
Please share your 3D printing learning curve. It is next on my wishlist.

Treehugger
Chassis looks similar to the truck kit I have. I had to spend some quality time cleaning up the plastic, all fun though, just using a flat metal file and a sanding stick, to clean things up.

Bozzer
@Bill. My advice is to first do some homework. I thought I had, but i was definitely wrong. Then, you need to choose a machine. My thoughts on that were, get something cheap, so i could learn easy and upgrade when I was ready? Yep, that was a mistake too. It's actually harder when you get a cheap machine. Aim for something mid range and definitely with a self levelling bed. If you don't like it or its not what you want to get into, atleast you can return some of your money, by selling it on. Now if you do continue, you need to get yourself a decent supply of filament. And don't forget your Pritt Stik! Then you can print something. There's plenty of STL files that you can buy, but for starters, just get use to your machine. There's a few good sites, where people swap files for free, so that's worth looking into too. I'm already looking for a new printer, so I can upgrade. Basically, I thought I knew what i was doing, but I soon realized that I didn't. However, I've learned a lot, even if it was, the hard way. I've now successfully printed a machine, in parts, so i can try photogrammetry. That's my next mission. Fingers crossed, it works!

Bozzer
@Treehugger. I've found that most Italeri kits, use the same chassis and it's based on the freightliner. The Peterbilt chassis, however, is different. After a few of these kits, you can almost build them with your eyes closed. I currently have about 8 kits now, all different manufacturers, in various stages of completion. I'm messing around with some different painting techniques, right now, on a Peterbilt 377. Hopefully I'll get some pictures up, if it turns out ok? I like to be a little adventurous, so I don't mind if it all goes wrong. There's always another time, to go back and fix it? Lol

Brandon H
I would encourage anyone considering 3D printing to also look into SLA printers in addition to FDM. That's the route I went when I took the plunge. The entry cost for the machine itself is lower, although the material cost can be (slightly) higher and some additional equipment is needed for post processing. I've found the resolution and accuracy to be very good, even for some of the more detailed parts I've made, and the parts need minimal filling and sanding once cured. The learning curve is different - personally I found it less intimidating than FDM. You certainly have to more careful about how your parts are designed, and how their oriented and supported when printing, but for the machine settings, I found the manufacturer recommendations to work pretty well without really any tweaking. Just a suggestion for anyone trying to get into it - all just depends on which technology you're personally more comfortable with.

Bozzer
Sound advice Brandon. Appreciate your input mate

Jonathon Herring
Bozzer always has the goods. Was fearful of scratching a stretched frame but, once again, he has shown me it isn't impossible. Thanks Bozzer and as always, excellent work. Looking forward to you getting back to the bench. 👍 May all your seems never turn ghost😂

Bozzer
Glad to be able to help, Jonathon. Just do your best? Mona has just made a full frame, scratchbuilt! You should see it! The talent on this forum, is award winning! And the best thing is, we all help eachother 🙂

Jonathon Herring
Just can't sing enough praises about this site. The community here is so warm and anyone who can put up with my lunacy deserves a Purple Heart 💜. Mona is my next stop to witness the skills on display. Sometimes, I miss stuff because if I watched all the talent here, I would have a job, time to eat, and worst of all, time at the bench. Thanks again for the support as well as the heads up😋

Bozzer
I just reorientated the pictures, because I realised that they were upside down, etc? I need to bring this album upto date, because things moved on and I didn't add the pictures. Stay tuned...