P-8 Poseidon [COMPLETE]
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Furball did a great job with the walkway lines! Even has the gap to go around the roundel.
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Base color applied. All antenna in place.
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The doors can be installed. Just don't look too close...
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Just figuring out the antenna on the forward fuselage. Dang, they added a periscope so the crew can watch the contact during IFR!!!
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HAAWCs are complete!
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Five more HAAWCs to get the retaining straps...
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Wings...
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For the straps, I used 6 straps of 32 gauge brass wire with .010 x .010 strip cut to 1mm in length glued with CA to each end... I'm getting blind!
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I'm pretty sure now the Air-Graphic bay is about 5mm too short...
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Primed and ready for antennae and pitot tubes... then paint!
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Canopy is on. Still need to blend in the radome...
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I found some pilots. Dressed for combat and cold weather over the North Sea.
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The parachute canister removal shrouds (prop shrouds?) were made from aluminum foil and Tamiya masking tape. Not super accurate, but they do the job for a 1:72 scale effort...
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The sensor ball needs just a little bit more work!!!
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The bay for the multi-function sensor was pretty easy to add, even though the fuselage was already assembled!
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The bay is 9mm square by 10mm deep.
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Three (3) sets of two Torps...
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Got all the arms back on the doors...
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It's making faces now...
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Test fit after adding final details to the bay.
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The cut seems to be a success!
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Time to cut the doors open...
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Test fit...
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Test fit...
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I realized later that the rivets on the exhaust cones are expected to be at a specific orientation. I chose 6 o’clock so they would be visible.
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Dimensions of cutout and how far from the kit panel lines they are. This will provide a sturdy mounting surface for the resin printed bay.
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Uh Oh... "Houston, we have a problem..."
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Excellent Detail In The Air Graphic Models Bomb Bay.
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Fuselage join from the outside.
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Fuselage join seam from the inside.
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Window frame prep.
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MS-012 Scribing tool... Perfect for the window frame shaping!
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Bomb bay section attached to the modified center wing section. Much work to go on this portion.
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Komentáře
87 19 December 2023, 01:23
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A trick to try help smoothen out the stepped resin parts, is to mix a drop of water into a bit of Vallejo putty to liquify the putty. This creates a more friendly filling mass that can be help fill the tiny cavities. Best to not thin the putty too much or the filling power goes away.
19 December 2023, 09:57
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I ordered it and it showed up! The guys at Air Graphic sent one!
20 December 2023, 16:38
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Okay, the issue is that the Air Graphic bay is about 3/4 cm short. At least according to the bay doors molded into the fuselage. Looks like my options are to request a stretched bay, modify the bay, or cut the fuselage doors short and blend the remainder...
Thoughts anyone?
20 December 2023, 18:33
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asking for a correct set seems a good idea, if they say no, or say that their set is correct and your model not.... then maybe sand the doors and scribe new of the size of the piece you want to fit? (I hate rescribing....)
20 December 2023, 19:50
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I'm leaning toward that solution. I need to obtain the torpedoes (5 ea) and they need to fit in length. I am building the kit wheels up, bay open with weapons deployment in progress.
20 December 2023, 19:58
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Tough choice between moving off of the aft panel lines or moving off of the wing fillet on the forward end of the bay. I guess this is what I need to do. The only hope is that the Mk. 44 or Mk. 54 Torpedoes will fit appropriately.
21 December 2023, 01:37
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I would like Air Graphic to sell the STL files for self-printing the parts. I bought the MW 1 for the Tornado and was not happy with the printing quality, seemed like there were printign issues. Would be interesting to know if they send you a replacement part in the correct size.
Also watching your build of this big bird with interest, keep the pictures coming! 👍 🙂
21 December 2023, 09:02
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Cockpit is pretty much done. Would like to find some figures to put in the seats...
30 December 2023, 04:07
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Lots of lovely detail going into this and very well documented too... Great work 🙂
31 December 2023, 04:17
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Welp… I now have to switch my focus to the bomb bay… there is a ton of work to accomplish there. First, I have to figure out where each of the broken door control arms go so that the doors attach correctly. Let the real fun begin!
31 December 2023, 17:52
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I chose to join the fuselage halves before installing the cockpit so that all the sanding and shaping can be completed. The interior of the fuselage windows can be cleaned until the bomb bay and wings are attached.
31 December 2023, 17:57
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It appears I will need to shorten the length of the fuselage in order to have the bomb bay work within the panel lines of the actual aircraft. The alignment of the aft end of the bomb bay is very close to the square panel on the bottom of the fuselage and the front of the bomb bay is essentially butted up against the wing filets. Miserable conditions...
1 January, 23:32
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Sadly, the BPK kit fuselage is 21.85" long which is spot on with the dimensions given by NavAir...
2 January, 00:22
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Depends. If Air Graphic is correct, then the details and sonobouy ports are 10 mm too far back. If BPK is correct, then the Air Graphic bay is 10 mm too short. The Mk 54 torpedo will fit in the bay but I am not sure the residual length is correct. There probably needs to be a compromise between the two. Since I've already joined fwd and aft fuselage halves, shortening the aft fuselage is not a very good option but could be done… ahhh, new product growing pains…
2 January, 16:41
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Well, it's time to modify the bomb bay. I am using an extended length of 6.25 mm to compromise between the BPK panel lines and the door lengths. Also, the armatures inside the bomb bay will probably belie the modification. This adaption will require the use of the doors cut from the BPK kit since the 3D printed doors are kinda mated to the original door armatures. I will probably sand everything down to meet the needs of the doors since that is going to be the most visible portion of the modifications. Sad that Air-Graphic will not re-print with an adjusted (scaled) length. 5 mm is the least I could add. 8 mm is the full difference from the BPK dimensions. This is the price (and joy) of doing one of these...
5 January, 23:47
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Hello Marlin.
The discrepancy in length is annoying.
Wikipedia gives a length of 2.715m (german Wiki) / 2,72m (engl. Wiki) for the MK54. That would be 3.77cm in 1:72.
Maybe there are pictures somewhere where you can estimate how much space the torpedo has in the bay at the front and back.
Or maybe you can even find size information for the P-8 bay?
5 January, 23:59
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I did that very calculation. Came up with the same. I have accepted that the hard points are going to be about 5% to 10% forward of a neutral position. The centering of the Mk 54 torpedos with the HAAWC modification can be fudged to make the whole thing look a little more accurate. it's probably a nudge on the residual space anyway. I have to further modify the bay to build up the structure and the sides of the bay for the additional length. It's going pretty well so I guess I can't complain...
6 January, 00:46
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The modification to the bay is almost complete. Once the orientation of the bay in the fuselage is set, I can start cutting the doors open. Then I get to figure out what to do with the doors that are now too short...
6 January, 08:13
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Here's hoping ResKit will be successful in sending me their Mk 54 torpedoes. Kinda need those! But, I think there is a war going on… pray for those guys!
8 January, 03:03
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Re. photo #16, I tried to drill into 3d printed resin, but it only went well when the drill bit was small, as the drill bit got larger, the drill bit started to chip the resin in places. I used a hand drill, I could have used an electrical one and presumably it might perhaps had not chipped for me, or who knows. I prefer hand drilling, as it sort of gives me more control.
10 January, 07:44
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@Treehugger, absolutely true. It was an extremely slow and manual process. The actuator rod on the inside was used to support the resin as I drilled through. The back wall is actually cracked in about five places just from handling. Mostly applied medium and thin CA to fill cracks and strengthen the wall. Adding primer and paint will add some strength as well. No power tools were used. Chipping is filled with medium CA. Hope it all looks okay!
10 January, 17:19
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Looks like the fuselage around the bomb bay opening needs to be thinned to about 1/4 mm (1/64 in) to allow for the bay door armatures to reach the actuator shaft on the side of the bay... the fun never ends!
11 January, 03:23
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These Torpedoes are really small. Or my eyes are getting really old...
15 January, 01:56
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Wish I had seen this sooner; love all the documentation following 👀
23 January, 05:33
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So, the doors at a bit of work. I need to extend the forward and trailing edges about 1.5mm on each end to make up for the additional length of the bay. The doors look pretty good as is. Just need to make it a bit more accurate.
25 February, 20:43
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The 3-D printed doors just have too much detail that is somewhat compressed so the goal is to give them the appearance of appropriate size…
25 February, 21:17
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The bay doors are now corrected for length. Not a bad option. The control arms on the doors are not going to reach the control rod in the bay correctly. I needed to thin the fuselage skin much further than I did. However, the torpedoes in the bay will probably hide most of this sin...
6 March, 09:27
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The HAAWCs are almost done. I have to add the remaining straps to the stowed weapons. Still waiting on an aqueous paint FS36495 to mix with the FS36622 to make my "Boeing Gray".
12 March, 06:02
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Got the main coat on, mounted the bay doors, started some weathering. Trying to decide which VP to use.
24 March, 04:49
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The Tigers are cool. I like the look of VP-9 and especially VP-10 with the "Big Dipper" logo. Wish it was easier to find a higher resolution image of the instructions (I assume this is the Furball sheet)
25 March, 22:36
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I'm guessing the aircraft that made the pipeline run didn't have a very elaborate tail marking...
25 March, 23:59
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I could be wrong, but I think the VX-1 squadron is a Test & Eval squadron...
26 March, 00:07
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Ahh I see what you're trying to make. Love that paint job and the look of the torpedo bay 👍
26 March, 01:01
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I agree with Rando 👌
Desert Marlin, I like the VP-9, VP-16, VP-30 and VP-46, but the one who is going to observe the model daily is you 😉
26 March, 19:11
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I suspect more than myself will see it. But I like VP-42 the best. Mostly because that's the squadron my uncle was in and piloted the SP-5A(B) Marlins. Perhaps that bears some relationship to my online name...
26 March, 20:49
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Sadly, I do not believe VP-42 flys the P-8. Or if it is even active today.
26 March, 20:54
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Adding gloss coat today. Looks like it will get a couple of days to dry and cure before the markings arrive.
28 March, 17:21
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Glosscoat looking good so far! As soon as the Furball gets here, I can start applying the markings!!!
29 March, 00:27
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Thanks Michael and Cuajete! I need a little more glossy finish before markings!
29 March, 21:07
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Because I only set 1:48, I don't get to see the 1:72 builds...wow, this is a beauty, nice build so far.
30 March, 19:17
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great job! Followed this build for quite some time and love how it is developping 👍
30 March, 19:22
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It is taking much longer than I anticipated! I think the torpedoes and the bomb bay are way more work than planned. Now a stand is needed and I'm not sure how that is going to work yet…
30 March, 21:20
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VP-16 looks like a great choice 👍 I got 1/48 Moose Republic Draken and 1/72 DXM F-4 decals coming now
4 April, 04:03
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I got the base finished for cradling it at shows! Pictures after markings are on!
4 April, 18:15
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Big and good don't go together often. Here they do. Fine modelling we see here.
11 April, 08:19
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Thank you all!
@Michael Kohl - Yes, annoyingly big. Don't know how many times I thought it would break hitting the work lamps...
@Rando - the base was its own project. Thanks!
@David Taylor - The Aussie and Brit decals are in the box.
Thanks again everyone! It took about three times longer than I originally expected!
11 April, 16:25
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The entryway hatch decals need to be cut in quarters before being applied to the doors. Their shape is a bit too exaggerated for the actual shape of the doors. The overwing hatch door decals are perfect. The observation window decals were also perfect and did not interfere with the window masks!
11 April, 16:38
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The pilots sit too high in the cockpit. More work to lower the seats would help.
11 April, 16:39
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My P-8 Poseidon that represents the potential reason for the NordStream Pipeline damage...