Payen Pa.350
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23 3 December 2020, 21:32
Don Edgecomb
Awesome model. I've got this model via the cottage industry. It looks like you've rebuilt this from an embryonic resin blob. Excellent work. I think mine is from Unicraft or Antares Models.
Cheers,
Don
Awesome model. I've got this model via the cottage industry. It looks like you've rebuilt this from an embryonic resin blob. Excellent work. I think mine is from Unicraft or Antares Models.
Cheers,
Don
3 March 2021, 05:01
S M
Well you said it, Ben M. It's almost like scratch building with some already available parts... XD
Well you said it, Ben M. It's almost like scratch building with some already available parts... XD
29 March 2021, 18:59
S M
I found another blog that has completed this kit: maquette72.free.fr/a..acers/index_ao43.php
I found another blog that has completed this kit: maquette72.free.fr/a..acers/index_ao43.php
3 April 2021, 21:47
Alex K
And here's another (scratchbuilt) Pa.350 afleetingpeace.org/w..es/p/payen-pa-350-cd - in this case, scratch building instead of using the resin kit seems the... lazy option! Once again congrats for what you have accomplished so far!
And here's another (scratchbuilt) Pa.350 afleetingpeace.org/w..es/p/payen-pa-350-cd - in this case, scratch building instead of using the resin kit seems the... lazy option! Once again congrats for what you have accomplished so far!
4 April 2021, 13:56
S M
@AlexK Thanks for the link. That is one of the coolest scratch builts I have ever seen. Shame I cannot achieve same quality with this kit. I hope the finish line is close.
@AlexK Thanks for the link. That is one of the coolest scratch builts I have ever seen. Shame I cannot achieve same quality with this kit. I hope the finish line is close.
4 April 2021, 21:07
Pierre Pierre
impressive the way you had to go through to redo almost everything ! It is worth it look very nice and definitivelly original ! congrat and following.
Is all UNICRAFT kit are this quality ?
impressive the way you had to go through to redo almost everything ! It is worth it look very nice and definitivelly original ! congrat and following.
Is all UNICRAFT kit are this quality ?
11 April 2021, 13:43
S M
Thanks, Pierre! I would say almost all older Unicraft-models are like this or a bit better... I have two other kit and two more coming. Bird of Prey (Boeing Bird of Prey (Unicraft Models , 1:72)) is a little better (or atleast I would not recast), but needs better landing gear. Martin 262 B (Martin 262 B (Unicraft Models , 1:72)) is newer production and has smoother quality, but would need some scratch building.
Thanks, Pierre! I would say almost all older Unicraft-models are like this or a bit better... I have two other kit and two more coming. Bird of Prey (Boeing Bird of Prey (Unicraft Models , 1:72)) is a little better (or atleast I would not recast), but needs better landing gear. Martin 262 B (Martin 262 B (Unicraft Models , 1:72)) is newer production and has smoother quality, but would need some scratch building.
11 April 2021, 20:45
Robert Podkoński
Once upon a time I have completed Unicraft's Payen Racer and Boeing Bird of Prey, too - I have just uploaded two albums with WIP and finished models' photos - take a look, if you wish, how much automotive two-component putty I used... Presumably, I had less patience (and modelling skills...) than you...
Once upon a time I have completed Unicraft's Payen Racer and Boeing Bird of Prey, too - I have just uploaded two albums with WIP and finished models' photos - take a look, if you wish, how much automotive two-component putty I used... Presumably, I had less patience (and modelling skills...) than you...
12 April 2021, 13:40
S M
@Robert Thanks for sharing your models. I think you scored very well with Bird of Prey and Payen. You sanded them well and made better panel lines.
@Robert Thanks for sharing your models. I think you scored very well with Bird of Prey and Payen. You sanded them well and made better panel lines.
12 April 2021, 18:25
S M
Had to make some progress so I added the landing gear. Wheel might be from Sukhoi T-50 (from my million-box)) and other is from scratch.
Had to make some progress so I added the landing gear. Wheel might be from Sukhoi T-50 (from my million-box)) and other is from scratch.
14 April 2021, 20:19
Pierre Pierre
whe we see the pieces at the begining and how it came out now it is really impressive ! great job !
whe we see the pieces at the begining and how it came out now it is really impressive ! great job !
14 April 2021, 20:35
S M
Today it really progressed fast. After I wrestled with the exhaust pipes I painted the details. Then I thought it is ready for varnish and decals so I did that too.
Today it really progressed fast. After I wrestled with the exhaust pipes I painted the details. Then I thought it is ready for varnish and decals so I did that too.
20 April 2021, 20:26
S M
I decided to not use oil paints for weathering, that would have took few days to dry and there was not much details to weather. So I applied the the last satin varnish layer and glued the propeller in place. Also removed the mask from canopy so it is now ready! For comparison I glued old original parts together to see, what it could have been.
I decided to not use oil paints for weathering, that would have took few days to dry and there was not much details to weather. So I applied the the last satin varnish layer and glued the propeller in place. Also removed the mask from canopy so it is now ready! For comparison I glued old original parts together to see, what it could have been.
22 April 2021, 08:31
Robin (WhiteGlint)
A really interesting looking design. But I wonder how the pilot is supposed to see anything from that cockpit.
Your work really paid off, it looks great!
A really interesting looking design. But I wonder how the pilot is supposed to see anything from that cockpit.
Your work really paid off, it looks great!
22 April 2021, 11:08
Robert Podkoński
Maybe some kind of periscope was envisaged - like in Lindberg "Spirit of St.Louis"...
Maybe some kind of periscope was envisaged - like in Lindberg "Spirit of St.Louis"...
22 April 2021, 11:52
Robert Podkoński
Most probably, yet in Caudrons (461 and 561) there were at least side windows.
Most probably, yet in Caudrons (461 and 561) there were at least side windows.
22 April 2021, 15:37
Alex K
That was a real tour de force... Thank you for sharing your efforts - and congratulations! 👍 👍
That was a real tour de force... Thank you for sharing your efforts - and congratulations! 👍 👍
23 April 2021, 00:48
Robin (WhiteGlint)
Probably it would have been possible to just look over the airframe and engine cowling.
I know it was designed for racing so as less drag as possible but such (possibly) bad visibility seems really dangerous.
@Robert: Using a periscope for front visibility sounds nuts. 😄
Probably it would have been possible to just look over the airframe and engine cowling.
I know it was designed for racing so as less drag as possible but such (possibly) bad visibility seems really dangerous.
@Robert: Using a periscope for front visibility sounds nuts. 😄
23 April 2021, 17:53
Robert Podkoński
Or there was a positionable pilot's seat envisaged - like in Bisnovat SK-1 Soviet(!) racing plane...
Or there was a positionable pilot's seat envisaged - like in Bisnovat SK-1 Soviet(!) racing plane...
23 April 2021, 18:12
Robin (WhiteGlint)
That sounds possible. There are two glass segments on the Payen's cockpit, similar to the SK-1.
Maybe one was supposed to move up with the seat.
Sadly, I can't find much information on the Pa.350 online.
That sounds possible. There are two glass segments on the Payen's cockpit, similar to the SK-1.
Maybe one was supposed to move up with the seat.
Sadly, I can't find much information on the Pa.350 online.
23 April 2021, 18:37
S M
I couldn't find either much about Pa.350. Only some designs like Pa-22, Pa.101 and Pa.112 were built. There is no consensus about the motor either (4- or 6-cylinder or two engines in line). It doesn't have any radio either so guiding via radio wouldn't have been possible. I would lean to SK-1-style seat and cockpit.
I couldn't find either much about Pa.350. Only some designs like Pa-22, Pa.101 and Pa.112 were built. There is no consensus about the motor either (4- or 6-cylinder or two engines in line). It doesn't have any radio either so guiding via radio wouldn't have been possible. I would lean to SK-1-style seat and cockpit.
23 April 2021, 20:51