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MiG-17F - Egypt - 1973Nouveau: 18 November, 20:49 1:72
And finished!
MiG-17F of the Egyptian Air Force as of 1973
Projet: MiG-17F - Egypt - 1973
45 7 January 2023, 17:19
Bernhard Pethe
Eine gute Recherche, ist schon der halbe Weg zum Erfolg. Ich schau da mal weiter zu.
Eine gute Recherche, ist schon der halbe Weg zum Erfolg. Ich schau da mal weiter zu.
8 January 2023, 11:25
Cuajete
Marius, I'm glad you're taking up this interesting project again.
Very nice color scheme! It's the same scheme that this Mig-15 UTI? Egyptian Warriors (Condor Decals 72014, 1:72)
Marius, I'm glad you're taking up this interesting project again.
Very nice color scheme! It's the same scheme that this Mig-15 UTI? Egyptian Warriors (Condor Decals 72014, 1:72)
15 October, 18:07
Marius
Thank you for the interest mates!
@Cuajete: in a way it's similar, but not two EAF machines of the same type had the same "Nile" camouflage pattern. This was left to the freedom of artistic expresion of the maintainance workers. The rule was to use those three main colors: sand (sometimes orange sand), the weird green and a very dark green-tan (close to a complete black). The darkest color is certainly not the proposed brown of that decal sheet.
Otherwise, some of the EAF MiGs were overhauled in Warsaw Pact countries and were locally painted with only similar paints. The MiG-17 from the first picture of this album is such an example, where they applied directly black for the darkest color.
Sometimes order of colors was switched, while sometimes the applied pattern was completely irregular:
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This one below is some restored/repainted piece of museum in the US, where the darkest color is wrongly applied as brown:
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Thank you for the interest mates!
@Cuajete: in a way it's similar, but not two EAF machines of the same type had the same "Nile" camouflage pattern. This was left to the freedom of artistic expresion of the maintainance workers. The rule was to use those three main colors: sand (sometimes orange sand), the weird green and a very dark green-tan (close to a complete black). The darkest color is certainly not the proposed brown of that decal sheet.
Otherwise, some of the EAF MiGs were overhauled in Warsaw Pact countries and were locally painted with only similar paints. The MiG-17 from the first picture of this album is such an example, where they applied directly black for the darkest color.
Sometimes order of colors was switched, while sometimes the applied pattern was completely irregular:
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This one below is some restored/repainted piece of museum in the US, where the darkest color is wrongly applied as brown:
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16 October, 19:44
Clement
Vert interesting project and it's always nice to see a build move from the shelf of doom back to the workbench 🙂
Vert interesting project and it's always nice to see a build move from the shelf of doom back to the workbench 🙂
17 October, 06:41
John Wilkes
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Steven Van Dyck
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18 25 October, 01:17
Steven Van Dyck
For a review on the aftermarket products shown see shipmodels.info/mws_..p;p=1027734#p1027734
For a review on the aftermarket products shown see shipmodels.info/mws_..p;p=1027734#p1027734
25 October, 01:29
Matti Thomaes
Wauw Steven, already a new mahousive project , looking forward to the build, 👍
Wauw Steven, already a new mahousive project , looking forward to the build, 👍
25 October, 05:48
Treehugger
What is the significance, or the meaning of the name 'Jacobsen' on that coin in photo 13? Anyone know? 'Jacobsen' is a more or less common surname.
What is the significance, or the meaning of the name 'Jacobsen' on that coin in photo 13? Anyone know? 'Jacobsen' is a more or less common surname.
25 October, 06:42
Steven Van Dyck
Thanks for the interest. For Jacobsen see fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famille_Jacobsen , it's apparently a family of infamous corsairs also related to Jean Bart. It even mentions the medal at the end.
Thanks for the interest. For Jacobsen see fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famille_Jacobsen , it's apparently a family of infamous corsairs also related to Jean Bart. It even mentions the medal at the end.
25 October, 09:18
Steven Van Dyck
Both medals have now arrived. These will be useful as nameplates on the base. One had the description "paquebot Strasbourg", translated as cargo ship, and would be cast in 1950. I started with sanding the hulls to remove the casting traces, these are apparently broken off the sprue leaving two scabs. I noticed one difference, Strasbourg got a degaussing cable. I removed one breakwater from the front deck, taking care not to remove the detail around it. The drilling locations are not very clear, indicator lines passing multiple holes. I started removing Dunkerques sloop rails as I noticed that in the Strasbourg Woodhunter deck there are some PE ones, but now I notice that Shipyard wasn't planning on replacing the plastic rails in their wooden deck. And these rails are lying on the wooden deck, so they're very thin. I'll have to compare very well.
Both medals have now arrived. These will be useful as nameplates on the base. One had the description "paquebot Strasbourg", translated as cargo ship, and would be cast in 1950. I started with sanding the hulls to remove the casting traces, these are apparently broken off the sprue leaving two scabs. I noticed one difference, Strasbourg got a degaussing cable. I removed one breakwater from the front deck, taking care not to remove the detail around it. The drilling locations are not very clear, indicator lines passing multiple holes. I started removing Dunkerques sloop rails as I noticed that in the Strasbourg Woodhunter deck there are some PE ones, but now I notice that Shipyard wasn't planning on replacing the plastic rails in their wooden deck. And these rails are lying on the wooden deck, so they're very thin. I'll have to compare very well.
31 October, 11:58
Steven Van Dyck
I wanted to fix Dunkerque's deck. The hull is a bit narrow so I introduced a fitting piece of sprue before I glued the deck in. So there are no unnecessary tensions on the deck. The Shipyard watertight doors are replacing the kit ones, that are actually as detailed as the PE but I saw on pictures that these doors are all placed open. Some drilling is done to open up the doorways. The front of the conning tower should not have much of armour contrary to the rest of it, because only the internal communication channel is armoured. I therefore did not simply glue the PE plating on it, but removed the thick plastic first.
I wanted to fix Dunkerque's deck. The hull is a bit narrow so I introduced a fitting piece of sprue before I glued the deck in. So there are no unnecessary tensions on the deck. The Shipyard watertight doors are replacing the kit ones, that are actually as detailed as the PE but I saw on pictures that these doors are all placed open. Some drilling is done to open up the doorways. The front of the conning tower should not have much of armour contrary to the rest of it, because only the internal communication channel is armoured. I therefore did not simply glue the PE plating on it, but removed the thick plastic first.
10 November, 00:40
Steven Van Dyck
Thanks, Ingmar. Now the deck of Strasbourg is fixed, but the Bigblueboy set has some extra requirements. The doors now have a backside structure, though not the correct one I suspect. I found a rectangular profile in stead of their diamond pattern. They also request to open up the airplane hangar in two levels. Then the atlantic bow deck is completely covered with a large PE plate sporting the correct anti-slip pattern. It's so nice I rue that it won't be available for Dunkerque, that has got a bland chequered pattern from Hobbyboss.
Thanks, Ingmar. Now the deck of Strasbourg is fixed, but the Bigblueboy set has some extra requirements. The doors now have a backside structure, though not the correct one I suspect. I found a rectangular profile in stead of their diamond pattern. They also request to open up the airplane hangar in two levels. Then the atlantic bow deck is completely covered with a large PE plate sporting the correct anti-slip pattern. It's so nice I rue that it won't be available for Dunkerque, that has got a bland chequered pattern from Hobbyboss.
12 November, 19:40
Steven Van Dyck
The Strasbourg deck is further elaborated. The front splash guard has 32 triangular teeth, but you get 2 spares for each of the instances. So you can lose an entire set without stalling the project. You also get some 2D bitts that I rather changed to 3D, using PE rings and wire. The front deck house is replaced with PE, but it has 8 windows so I painted the inside black. The airplane hangar is a complicated design but it has a fully functional elevator.
The Strasbourg deck is further elaborated. The front splash guard has 32 triangular teeth, but you get 2 spares for each of the instances. So you can lose an entire set without stalling the project. You also get some 2D bitts that I rather changed to 3D, using PE rings and wire. The front deck house is replaced with PE, but it has 8 windows so I painted the inside black. The airplane hangar is a complicated design but it has a fully functional elevator.
16 November, 21:24
Jörg Schäfer
A real Steven Van Dyck, I'll stay on board. 😁
As always, excellent precision.
A real Steven Van Dyck, I'll stay on board. 😁
As always, excellent precision.
17 November, 04:44
Ingmar Stöhr
I always like it, if you get some spares for the tiniest parts! As long as there is space on the fret, it doesn't cost the manufacturer anything and it helps calm your nerves.
I always like it, if you get some spares for the tiniest parts! As long as there is space on the fret, it doesn't cost the manufacturer anything and it helps calm your nerves.
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