Hírfolyam

Robert Podkoński
Fantastic job so far. Keep it up!

MARCELO FACCHINI
Thank you very much for the encouragement my friend

Carlos Proença
Belo trabalho Marcelo. Nos detalhes e no capricho.

George Williams
Looking gorgeous.

MARCELO FACCHINI
thank's!!!!

Spanjaard
wow, that is a gorgeous bike, great job

Michael Kohl
Great job you present here.

Robert Podkoński
Great job indeed.

Marius
Good luck Andy!
The Algerian is interesting, but in case you need more inspiration, there were a couple of metallic Egyptian ones with colorful tails and interesting unit markings.
This decal sheet here is particularly well documented:
MiG-17 Around The World - As.. I (ModelMaker D72155, 1:72)

And preview pictures of the instructions can be found here:
super-hobby.de/produ..27.html?partner_id=9

And btw, I am not sure if this is of interest to you, but the seat from the Airfix kit is wrong. It's a weird representation of a KK-1 seat which the MiG-17 never had in the series production. You would need a KK-2 seat, which is offered by Pavla or Amigo Models, but it's very very difficult to find anywhere.

Andy Ball
Thanks Marius, the decals aren't in the best of registers either.I wanted to do aluminium to again test my skills in this medium. I'd heard about the seat issues, and with the one supplied. Perhaps I'll check the differences to see if there's a wprk-around?, do you know of any?

Robert Podkoński
Taking a seat, of course! 😉 (in the near future I intend to mash up the Kovozavody and the Airfix kits in order to build the proper Polish "Last of the LiM's")

Cuajete
I can't miss this! 👍

Andy Ball
Robert, can't you do it through the Airfix with some aftermarkets? I've pretty much assembled it today/yesterday- the fit is pretty good. Not sure if it was me or the kit, but some attention to filling around the nose is all so far….

Andy Ball
Hey hey Cuajete amigo! Glad to have you along !!

Robert Podkoński
It is simply because I have had Kovozavody kit in my stash 😉 - the decals are better (the ones included in Airfix kit are not wholly adequate...), yet Airfix is much more modeller-friendly, as you've proven this above 🙂

Cuajete
Well done so far, Andy! 👍

Andy Ball
@Robert- good to know, and hope we'll see it soon.
@Cuajete- more done tonight on account of your encouragement!
Thanks Slavo!!
It could be a quick build?

Bernd Grün
Interesting topic, Andy. follow with interest. 👍

Andy Ball
Thank-you Bernd, still in a quandary over what to decal it.

Bernd Grün
In my opnion Cambodian would be the favorite. 😉

Cuajete
I agree with Bernd. I also prefer the Cambodian one for the red ray, although the Algerian would also look very good in Andy's master hands. That snake and the grey-upper over aluminium could be very nice 👍

Waiting for the next progress.

Bernhard Pethe
Ich schaue da mal mit zu.
Die R-3S an der MiG-17 finde ich interessant. Kannte ich bis jetzt nicht. Sicher eine koreanische "Erfindung" .

Andy Ball
Thanks Sukhoi242 and the others for having a look.
Gentlemen- I love the suggestions for decals, but on inspection the Cambodian ones are off register, the N Korean and Algerian are about the best to use on a '17F….watch this space!
Thanks @Cortex!

Andy Ball
I won't be making any Korean sidewinder "look-a-likes", Bernhard, the Dear Leader wouldn't assist with the blueprints

Andy Ball
Thanks Rui and Patryk S, hope to provide some entertainment!

Ekki
Watching too.

Andy Ball
Hey Ekki, cheers!!

Andy Ball
Mirko, thanks. I'll post some "short finals" soon.

Andy Ball
Thanks Helio and everyone else….I'm pretty much done with this. Overall a quick and relatively painless build.

Cuajete
Looks great, Andy! 👍

Andy Ball
Thank-you Cuajete, I'm saying 'done' and will reflect on whether to weather it!

Maciej Bellos
Should you weather it, "Dear Leader" will probably have some "words" with you...
Lovely result Andy!

Robert Podkoński
That NMF looks great, Andy! (but Soviet-build planes never looked shiny, as they were covered with some 'protective' transparent lacquer, to the best of my knowledge. Here you can see few museum examples: Polish Air Force Museum - Dęblin | Album by podkon - it's up to you, whether to tone down the shine or not. Personally, I would leave the NMF as it is now 😉 )

Bernd Grün
Nice finish of your 'Fresco'. I like it. Cheers, Andy! 👌

Andy Ball
Thanks Ogre-Trombone!
In glorious utopian make-kingdom of Socialist Republic I will leave as is for now. The dear leader may have expected the guns to have fired at the fascist whores south of his border, so perhaps a little gun smoke, Marciej?
@Robert: I love the fact the Polish would not polish their MiGs…get it?…@ Bernd, vielen danke mein Freund!

Robert Podkoński
LOL! 😄

Marius
Andy, that's actually a really good looking MiG-17! Congratulations on the very good looking model! I don't remember seeing a North Korean one too often.

For the sake of the discussiom, I'll also add a short comment regarding the shininess: Robert is right that they were covered from the factory (together with all MiG-15s, and early MiG-21s) with a varnish coat mixed with a metallic pouder (5%-10%). The result varied depending on the factory. Nevertheless, I am not convinced that the museum pieces from Robert's link are that representative though, since some are repainted in actual silver while those which weren't are of course afected by the age (Aluminium turns really matt after some decades).

Overall, if we're looking at photographs from the 50s-60s, there were several skin panels which were somewhat shiny, but many rather semi-matt.
One fast example:
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But if I were you, I wouldn't change anything anymore, you model looks very good the way it is and taking photographs of models in NMF is in itself a bit tricky sometimes due ot lightning, at least in my case.

Andy Ball
Thanks Cuajete!!, and Marius - do you think a coat of semi-gloss may help tone it down, or matt even?

Guy Rump
Missed this, very nice indeed. 👍

Andy Ball
Thanks Arif and &Guy, you caught us in the end!, cheers.

Andy Ball
Thanks/Merci Curatorm

Andy Ball
Patryk S: both myself and the Respected Comrade General Secretary thank-you for your like.

Villiers de Vos
Very nice work.

Andy Ball
Thanks Peter and Villiers- (I will let Kim know)

Andy Ball
Pierre: merci aussi! Et M. Kim envoie ses salutations.

Ekki
Very good work!

Andy Ball
Ekki: you're too kind!, however, thank-you

Łukasz Gliński
We definitely deserve more pics from the Dearest Leader's inspection 👍

Andy Ball
Due to the Imperial Fascists blockade of SD card technologies- we may need to wait….
Thanks Connor for the look

Andy Ball
Thank-you Felix and others in your appreciation!

Micky
Nice plane Andy! Great work!

Robert Podkoński
Great indeed. Chapeau bas, Andy!

Snake Plissken
Wow, chrome plated!

Ben M
Taking it on vacation with me to get it started.

Nathan Dempsey
Bearcats unite! Following 👀

Guy Rump
Following. 👍

Snake Plissken
Is it similar to a commemorative edition or just meant to replicate natural metal finish?

Ben M
It's aluminum plated to represent the actual nmf finish. I built a t-33 where I had some issues that I hope to improve upon.

Ben M
Did a lot of sanding areas that will be glued, masking, fitting parts to each other, and basic assembly while I'm on vacation. I got new decals from Siam decals as the originals are from 1968 and not in good shape. I'm not sure how old the Siam decals are but they are newer than '68. One thing that is apparent is the stripey tail decal doesn't fit at all. This is going to be a good challenge to resolve.

Robert Podkoński
Taking a seat here.

Ben M
Decided to try to apply the 1960s decal for the cockpit, as I don't have an alternative. Had to soak it for about a minute in hot water to get it to release. As is typical for hawk kits the decal isn't the right size but you go to war with the decals you have. I got it to apply without shattering. Unsure if it will stick, very old decals like this often have to be glued in place.

Neil
Interesting 🤔 following also, looking good 👍

Ben M
I think the Siam Scale decals I'm using instead of the originals are about 20 years old but they're going on ok. A little thick, so not settling down into panel lines but I'll try some decal fluid once they set in place, hopefully they will on the aluminum surface! The roundels are two part so I will have to do a second layer…

Mr D
Smart little model.... unusual in the factory chrome 👍👍
Nice classic kit.
Bit of heat of hairdryer works with thick decals.... nice n steady.
Like it 😁👍

Ben M
That's a good idea, I may give it a try. First I'm going to upgrade from micro sol to mark fit.

Mr D
I use Mark fit ....but recently found the Vallejo one works amazing... Just used it on my in progress IAR-80.
Definitely my go to now.
The moon ships is great 👍👍

Nathan Dempsey
Wow Ben this one is turning into a colorful bird.

Ben M
An interesting detail I note while decaling. The panel lines on the fuselage are engraved. The panel lines on the wings are raised. Wtf.

Desert Marlin
I've been using Mr. Mark Softener and Mr. Mark Setter. They worked well on some Kitty Hawk decals which are pretty stubborn...

gorby
Nice work so far.

Ben M
The tamiya mark fit and some work with a needle solved the problems! Thanks for all the great ideas everyone. Onwards!

Ben M
Did a bunch of cut the decals into pieces to fit a different model than they were made for. Came out fairly well. Subassemblies are getting larger as the project comes together.

Dave
Looks great. Nice work

Desert Marlin
You seem to have forced the decals to cooperate!

Robert Podkoński
Great job, Ben!

Mr D
It's looking really good 👍
It's great that the kits can still be built after all these years.
The people in the factory's would have never believed the model they are packing wouldn't be built until 2024 🤔🤣.
Nice build to follow 😃

Ben M
Almost complete. Popped the main fuselage seam a bit 🙁 I had gone to a lot of work to hide it. For some reason even after carefully scraping the mating surfaces I just don't get good adhesion. Maybe next time I will try only using CA for assembly on my next plated kit.

Ben M
The decal sheet says 23rd squadron Kohkratiem AFB, but there's not much on the internets. Possibly a misspelling? The Royal Thai Air Force had F8F's from 1951 to 1963.

Thanks to Siam Scale for the decals, without which this project would be hopeless. The sheet number is 48003 if that helps anyone.

Desert Marlin
Looks great so far! Don't worry about the seam. It can be filled and perhaps painted, even though it's plated.

Desert Marlin
Or foil added if you have access to that...

Ben M
Complete! @desert marlin - I decided the seam on the bottom wasn't important enough to do a bunch of rework. It's an old 60's "chrome" plated model after all 🙂 I think it came out looking pretty good overall.

Mr D
Fantastic, Really nice kit , Looks 👍 great.
Sometimes it's nice for a vintage kit to look close to how it would be built originally.... Nostalgic.
Nice find....

Guy Rump
Great job! 👍

Nathan Dempsey
That's some nice work on that old kit Ben. Looks great!

Ben M
I have one more plated kit in my stash. Kind of tempted to get it out and keep going…

Mark Sherwood
Nice rendition of the F8. 👍🥸🤘

Robert Podkoński
Good job, Ben!

Miguel Vaquero
Following!!

Matti Thomaes
Watching

Jan Peters
Welcome mates

Jan Peters
Made a careful start. Parts are a mixed bag, some very nicely done, some a bit crude and oversized.

Jan Peters
Any thoughts on how to make the anti radar material on the snorkel?

Matti Thomaes
Can't help you there Jan, I didn't even know there was anti-radar material on the snorkel...

Jan Peters
I had a go at it, looks more crude in the pictures then it looks in real life, might do some fine tuning later

Sebastian Meyner
Nice work so far Jan 👍 Following with interest 👀

Jan Peters
Thanks Sebastian, and welcome 🤗

Jan Peters
It would be nice to see someone do a 3d printed snorkel someday.

Guy Rump
Looking great, following. 👍

Jan Peters
Thanks Guy, and welcome mate.

Łukasz Gliński
Very nice 👍

J35J
Great work👍🏻

Guy Rump
Lovely job! 👍

Rando Dude
Looks great 👍

Johan DN
Thank you mates for your thumbs up 👍🏻

Bernd Grün
Very nice build and paint job. 👍 Congratulation!

Johan DN
Thank you Bernd. Next time I finish it less glossy.

Micky
Nice work!👍👍

Johan DN
Thank you Micky.

Alex K
Interesting 👍

István Szücs
I'm in! Interesting car with interesting scheme!

Ben M
The cops have a ppsh-41?

Christian W
That gives me a smile in the face 🙂

Nicolas
Following

yngvenett
I'm following this to learn

Martin Oostrom
Another tutorial one needs to watch

Gerald Sigmund
@mks: Komakais Walkaround shows meshes for the left and right intakes and none for the center one.

Bozzer
I have no idea of your subject, but I do enjoy your builds. The tutorial is always a lesson, and very informative. Keep them coming 👍

Pepe
Looking

berni
I take a seat 👍

DerMattes
Watching 👍

Johne 69
I am in too 😃

Ben M
When you thin parts, what technique do you use?

MS K
@Ben M - When I need to shave a lot, like this time, I use file.

Michael Kohl
Martin and Bozzer pointed it out. This will be fun and informative to follow.

Matteo Pescarin
Oh wow, as usual, fantastic documentation of the efforts going into this project. Chapeau to you!
Nonetheless, it makes me want to skip any Revell kit from now on... if I only didn't have any in my stash XD

MS K
@Matteo - The new mold products produced since around 2010 are generally nice quality(2CV, VW T1, 911G, Etc...) , but this product is so poorly made that it is ridiculous. I don't know what the production concept of this kit is. It is poor for a precision model, and it's not even easy to assemble.

Michael Kohl
With Revell you better check in advance how that specific kit is rated by others. They have tons of reboxes and quite a few kits where you just wanna ask: are you serious? But then, once in a while, just to show that they are able - in general - to be a serious modelling company, they release some really fine stuff. Doesn't hurt to be prepared what you're up against.

Alexander Grivonev
A true Revell car kit experience 👍 The casted on wiper is especially painful

Michael Kohl
That diffusor is a tremendous improvement.

amazon.com/dp/B00004..aps%2C163&sr=8-3
Such a tool makes such work as fitting the diffusor panels to the chassis much easier (the thinner the needles/pins, the more precise the contour).
Just a german site to give an idea.
Cheers Michael

MS K
Nice idea. I wish there was something made of insect pins thin enough to use in a plamodel.

Johne 69
Great work so far 👍

berni
A question. What Colours you would use at this kit?

MS K
@berni - The red is Italian Red, and I plan to use Cobalt Blue + Sky Blue (the instructions say to mix Ultramarine and Blue).

Denis Dogadov
I make up the silkscreen on the glass with a very thinly sliced masking tape.

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MS K
@Denis - Yeah, I used to do it that way too, before I started using masking film.
My advice is that when masking that way, 'Tamiya masking tape for curves' is much easier than paper tape.
Youtube Video

Denis Dogadov
Yes, it's a good option, but I still prefer the paper one.
I especially like its price when you need to paint a thin line 74 centimeters long.

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