Hírfolyam

Robert Podkoński
Fantastic job on this demanding kit. Chapeau bas!

BAT21
Thanks for your nice feedback 👍

Anatolii Smyshliaiev
Excellent work. And mine has been standing unpainted for several years. Only in the Mi-10PP version with a container of electronic interference.

BAT21
Yes, the Mi-10PP is still on my to-do list.

Guy Rump
Great job! 👍

Tibor Szilvai
Excellent! 👍

J35J
Impressive work! Congrats👍🏻

BAT21
Many thanks.

Neuling
Clean and careful work on this interesting helicopter. Very appealing paintwork!

bughunter
The picture 11 is the best of this beast 👍

Roland Sachsenhofer
These four pictures begin a project that should result in one of the largest models I have ever attempted. Not the biggest - the 1:32 Liberator holds my record here - but close!
However, the impressively large box contains surprisingly little and, also surprisingly, large components such as the fuselage, wings and tailplane are already assembled. Incidentally, these are made of fibreglass and require their own treatment.
These parts are also stable and clean. A bit of filling was required, as the traces of glue and filler on the seams are very rough and show air pockets. This will now be sanded, the cockpit sawn out and the windows drilled - well, modelling a little differently than usual! 🙂

Gergő Takács
This looks like a cool project! Following.

Treehugger
The panel lines look ok I guess. I mean, I would be happy with those panel lines.

Mr D
Like it , nice project.
I'm working on the Beriev Be-6 Armoured Flying boat,
Revisiting a kit after 33yrs.
All the best with yours...😃👍👍

Robert Podkoński
A true behemoth it is. I will surely follow this build with utmost interest!

gorby
Looking forward to seeing this take shape. 🙂
I believe the last Mars had it's final flight two weeks ago.
Youtube Video
Youtube Video

Nathan Dempsey
Oh my another giant. Following 👀

Robert Podkoński
BTW. Do we see the finished Fairchild in the background, Roland?

Roland Sachsenhofer
I am very happy about all your interest! In fact, I also started this project because of its topicality; the pictures of the last flight of Hawai Mars are always a heart-warming pleasure; this one in particular, thanks Gorby for posting it!

Today I drilled the openings for the windows in the fuselage; I determined the diameter of the holes from kit glass parts. They seem a bit big to me, but we'll see. As I'm not going to use the clear parts from the kit, but want to make them with Klearfix, I could reduce the diameter quite a bit.
The next steps will be to finish sanding the fuselage seams - now only the top side has to be done - and then to glue the wings and stabilisers to the fuselage. To do this, I'm cutting solid steel rods to length, which I'll glue in place with a two-component adhesive.
The Mars should be ready by mid-October: I want to take it to the Euromodel in Ried, Upper Austria.

And yes, In fact, the more or less finished Fairchild F.91 had to serve as a scale model in the background! 🙂

Thomas Mayer
Du bist echt eine Bau-Maschine, Roland! Und immer kommt etwas sehr schönes raus! 👍

Roland Sachsenhofer
Danke für die Einschätzung, Thomas! 🙂

Roland Sachsenhofer
The construction of Mars is progressing: I'll show you a few construction steps in a little 'time lapse'. Attaching the wings and tailplane with 2k glue worked well; the materials could be sanded smooth and fine afterwards. However, the brittleness of the fibreglass caused some difficulties; parts kept splintering off and had to be filled, sanded and re-engraved. As I always do the whole thing standing up, wearing a mask and under running water, this always turns into an almost athletic exercise 🙂 But now it seems to be over and the Mars is ready for its first encounter with colour... I took the two crew members under the cockpit canopy to make the proportions clear and to keep my options open for presenting the finished aircraft - who knows, maybe it will take off or fly?

gorby
It's a bit of a monster! 😮
Doesn't look like an easy build but you seem to be beating it into shape. 🙂

Robert Podkoński
You're the brave man, Roland, not me...

DerMattes
Das schau ich mir weiter an 🙂

Mr D
Looking good Roland 👌
Be a nice bird when she done, pilots look smart 👍👍

Cuajete
Wow... an unusual and gigant model... It seems like fiberglass is difficult to handle.
Great job so far, Roland!

Michael Kohl
Na, da hab ich doch auch nen Blick drauf

Roland Sachsenhofer
Thank you very much for your motivating feedback and your interest, mates!

Łukasz Gliński
I have to follow that behemoth 👍 I don't think I'll ever find enough space to build one myself 😄

Thomas Kolb
My goodness, your models are just getting bigger and bigger! I cannot wait to see it finished!

Finn
Looking interesting, I'm in

Ray Loch
Following as well. Just saw its retirement flyby and landing in Pat Bay, Its Huge.

Roland Sachsenhofer
Fortunately, the Martin Mars has reached the stage where the colouring and surface design will be the main thing; so far I've been 'plugging holes' again and again: the fibreglass surface proves to be quite brittle, damage is difficult to putty, and when re-engraving the lost panel lines it quickly happens that it cracks again under the carefully guided scalpel blade - and a new hole has already appeared. The new pictures show a few such construction sites, for example at the bow under the cockpit glazing or on the back of the fuselage between the wings.
But, all in all, in retrospect it's all half as bad, now I'm looking forward to the paintwork!

Thank you, mates, for your interest and feedback! Ray, I would have liked to have experienced that too!

Ben M
👀🤯

Cuajete
Roland, I was unaware of these problems with fiberglass and it is a shame that these kits are so expensive considering the quality of these materials. I think the worst is over. You can feel proud of the work done so far. The effort was worth it. Go on!

Roland Sachsenhofer
Those are encouraging responses, yes, Cuajete, I think so too. Thank you both for your interest and comments!

Mr D
How big is the model??
Is it cast in fiberglass because it's to big for injection molding??
Nice to see the update 😁👍👍
The vent in behind the cockpit done now.

Mirko Römer
That's what you call a project!👍

Nicolas
Cool project, following.

Roland Sachsenhofer
Thank you friends! The Mars as a 72 model measures 84.5cm in wingspan and has a length of 48.5cm: huge, but not so huge that it couldn't have been made into an injection moulded model. The B-24 Liberator from Hobby Boss in 1:32 that I built this spring, for example, was significantly larger and yet still injection moulded.

What is now proving to be a challenging issue is that the acrylic paint I used does not seem to want to adhere properly to some parts of the resin fuselage and wing panels, even though I have meticulously and accurately cleaned the surfaces. And another thing: after I sprayed a first coat of white paint on the fuselage today, something became apparent that hadn't appeared before: the resin surfaces are covered with small air pockets, i.e. holes.... 'Much enemy, much honour' as they say in German! 🙂

Ben M
What are you using for primer? I almost always use tamiya spray primer as it usually adheres even to challenging surfaces. I have had trouble occasionally on some resin surfaces where I've resorted to krylon plastic compatible spray paint as a primer.

Roland Sachsenhofer
That's a good question, thanks for the tips: I used glossy black acrylic paint here as usual - it actually looked quite good until yesterday, after a few days drying time, I started to mask off the black areas on the undersides of the wings....
I think I'll just carry on with Gunze and Tamiya acrylic paints - and touch up where necessary.

Roland Sachsenhofer
Der aktuelle Zustand der Mars in Weiß hat noch nichts mit der finalen Oberseiten-Farbe zu tun, sondern bildet nur die Basis für das Rot der Unterseiten. Aktuell erstrahlt die Mars sogar in leuchtend Gelb: Dies sollte die Leucht- und Deckkraft des folgenden Rot noch weiter stärken. Der Aufwand wird allerdings dadaurch erhöht, dass immer wieder Spachtel- Schleif und Gravierbedarf auftaucht: die Resin Oberflächen sind äußerst uneben und voller kleiner Lufteinschlüsse, ein echter Jammer. Aber ich bin zuversichtlich, dass mit der steigenden Stärke der Lackschichten auch die raue Oberfläche etwas mehr Geschlossenheit zeigen wird!

Mr D
It's come along way 👌👍👍

Łukasz Gliński
Oh man, that is bigly yuge indeed 😄

Cuajete
You're doing very well, Roland. Don't be discouraged.
Kopf hoch! 👍

Roland Sachsenhofer
Sapperlot! I only wrote the text in German yesterday: here it is in English:
The current state of the Mars in white has nothing to do with the final upper side colour, but only forms the basis for the red of the undersides. At the moment, the Mars is even shining in bright yellow: this should further enhance the luminosity and opacity of the red colour to follow. However, the effort is increased by the fact that there is always a need for filling, sanding and engraving: the resin surfaces are extremely uneven and full of small air pockets, a real shame. But I'm confident that as the thickness of the paint layers increases, the rough surface will also show a little more unity!

Thank you very much for your encouragement and motivation! Yesterday I mentioned that Mars has now been coloured yellow as the last stage before the red - here are the pictures!

Cuajete
👌

Roland Sachsenhofer
Thank you Cuajete!
....and now in red! It's getting really exciting for me now. Not just the question of how I'll manage the masking for the white upper sides, but above all whether the colour under the adhesive strips will stay on them or - hopefully - on the model when I peel them off!

Cuajete
I'm sure it does, Roland. That Mars looks great and the red color looks great.
Is the stand underneath included in the kit?

Roland Sachsenhofer
Thank you! Yes, that's him. Doesn't necessarily look much, but is very useful when building

Mr D
Hi Roland 👋.
Is it heavy? Being fiberglass ?
I've read about the difficulty you had with Glass resin!
My dad used to make parts for race bikes ....and air bubbles very hard to avoid! Also cutting against the grain....tends to pull other strands.
Your getting to a better stage now and it's coming on nicely now...
I thought it was the Goose at first glance.. earlier in build.
Good luck with rest.👍👍

Arseny K.
I just love it! Respect

Roland Sachsenhofer
Thank you both! Somehow it is really comforting and above all interesting that I am not alone with the problems with the fibreglass surfaces! Yes, the construction is fairly heavy, but above all it needs enough 'air space' above the workbenches when it is swivelled to get everywhere with the airbrush! 🙂
Well, the 'Spruce Goose' is still a dream - but one with a chance of realisation!

Roland Sachsenhofer
The time has come! Now the layers of paint under the masking have to prove that they can adhere to the fibreglass surface and want.... prognoses say it will all be possible! In the meantime, the white has been applied to the surfaces, which definitely looks good on the Martin Mars.

Cuajete
Great, Roland! 👍

Robert Podkoński
Wow! This is going to be a true masterpiece... Watching with pleasure and interest!

Ben M
🤯

CaptGPF
That PE work is insane! Gotta watch this!

Michael Kohl
Very interesting project

Pietro De Angelis
😲

gorby
Looks very interesting build.

Desert Marlin
Oh, very nice!

Hanno Kleinecke
Hell(cat) yeah ! 👍

Mr D
Wow 😲 brilliant 👌👌👍

John Thomas
Very nice work

Desert Marlin
Okay, that's getting crazy good!

Lorraine Lin
Thank you for the encouragement, will keep on working on this.

Lochsa River
very cool....

Pepe
😳😳😳😍

Neuling
Wow !

David Taylor
Wow.

CaptGPF
Looking more awesome each time I check in on it! Keep up the amazing work!

J35J
Impressive work! Watching with great intrest.

Matt Schloss
That is really cool!

Michael Kohl
Made me look immediately for Jasmodel kits.

Олег О
Это что-то необыкновенное! Потрясающе!

Robert Podkoński
Makes me wonder, what happens next... You've managed this skeleton kit absolutely perfectly. Chapeau bas!

Michael Kohl
How - if all all - did you prep the metal?

tyu
Nice, VERY nice! How did you attach the metal parts: glueing or soldering? Very clean build, impressive1

CaptGPF
Here's a dumb question - how do you keep the paint from chipping off of the PE? I tried spraying Mr Surfacer on it, prior to painting, but it still chips very easily.

Lorraine Lin
Thank you everyone!
@Michael Kohl, this kits are from Jasmine Model. The PEs are great, while the instructions a little bit difficult to understand.
@tyu, I used instant adhesive to glue them together. Some small parts, I used UV glue.
@CaptGPF, I used Mr. Color C series to paint it directly after assembly, keep the paint as thin as possible. But yes, it still chips easily, try not to touch it : )

ZHIDONG Li
大佬

bughunter
Great project!
As I build some Stripdown aircraft already I thought about this one too, but the kit is hard to get here and pricey so it was only an idea.

@CaptGPF You can apply Mr.MetalPrimer from Gunze first. It is a acrylic clear coat which hardens to a thin robust layer even if applied with a brush. I prefer the glass bottle over the rattle can.
SF-242 Mr. Metal Primer, Mr.COLOR , Lacquer, 40ml

Skyhiker
Lorraine what are you using for a skin on the fuselage?

Michael Kohl
I have used Mr Metal Primer for a while too with satisfying results. Paint adheres much better.

Michael Kohl
Copper foil plating and going for a french version. This is getting better every day. 🙂

bughunter
There is a newer version with an additional "-R" on the name, I don't know what was changed. I still use the original one.
Tamiya has also a product for this (have not tried it): 204 Metal Primer, Tamiya Gloss, Enamel, 40ml

Mr D
Now Lorraine....That is dedication to accuracy 😲.
This is why the Chinese were making Ming vases.. while the rest of the world made clay pots 🤣.
Very talented n clever 💯%

Lorraine Lin
Thank you Mates!

@skyhiker, It is 0.02mm cooper foil, and it needs to be annealed first (>650 degree C, a cigar lighter or gas cooker is good enough.)

@Micheal and bughunter, thank you for the suggestion, I just ordered Mr. Metal Primer-R.

Lorraine Lin
Thank you Mr D.

Lorraine Lin
@bughunter, I just received the new "-R" version. The new label says "improved transparency".

Skyhiker
The rivets on the copper look a bit strange because they are not in alignment with the plane's ribs. On a real aircraft wouldn't they be?

Lorraine Lin
@skyhiker, thank you for the comment. This is to verify my idea, I am making a new skin. And will try to make the rivets to align with the ribs. Thank you again.

bughunter
Thank you for the info!
I hope it still sticks to metal like the original.

Mr James
Outstanding work. This goes beyond modelling to precise engineering.

bughunter
Wnat to mention another usage:
The Mr.MetalPrimer can also be used, if the metal should not be painted. It protects the metal surface and prevents tarnishing and oxidation over time.

Alexander Grivonev
Additionally to the metal primer you can treat your PE parts with a fiberglass eraser pen beforehand. It cleans the metal from the oxide layers and roughens it up just a tiny amount to create perfect conditions for paint adhesion.

Dominik Weitzer
Wow. what a great work. excellent!

CaptGPF
Fantastic progress! It's a pity that the beautiful framing is covered up. Did you press the foil against the kit to get the detailing?

Kesa Tiho
Absolutely stunning, alas i cant help but feel suspicious

Alexander Grivonev
What makes you feel suspicious? @Kesa

Kesa Tiho
I cant put my finger on it but it seems too perfect. Too good to be true

Robert Podkoński
If you look closer, you will spot a few imperfections, Kesa (both on the side of the Jasmine model kit, and in the assembly). Notwithstanding, is a fantastic piece of workmanship.

Alexander Grivonev
I agree with Robert, everything looks authentic and not "doctored". I absolutely do not want to take away from Lorraine's craftsmanship, but there is nothing "too good to be true" about this. Great idea, very well executed, just fantastic craftsmanship. Every step is plausible and well documented and I don't even know how or why you would fake something like this 😄

Skyhiker
Well for 300 Euros per kit some people might have to fake it. That's a lot of money.

Alexander Grivonev
but faked HOW is what I wonder about. CGI? Yeah, it looks impressive, but it is still a kit. You cut the parts out, you assemble them and you paint the whole thing, no black magic to it really. It would be much more difficult to "fake" it imho

bughunter
@Skyhiker Do you mean 300€ for the whole project, with the Eduard kits and accesories?
The Jasmine Hellcat can be found from below 130€ from aliexpress (ok tax and co needs to be added) and around 150€ in ebay, but not 300! List price at Jasmin own shop is 169$

CaptGPF
@Kesa - if you think this is too perfect, wait till you see some of the other posters like Neuling, Mr James, Markus and Jörg (to name a few)- their stiff will also blow your mind!!!! However, Lorraine is definitely the God of PE!!!!!

Skyhiker
Bughunter I was looking at the price from Hobby Link Japan.

Kesa Tiho
I think i started a war

Kesa Tiho
@alexander grivionev i would say its just a pre built set but because of the WIP photos i cant :/

Kesa Tiho
I didnt mean my comment as an insult to her and her ability to build, paint etc builds. I just found her build oddly good

Mr D
Kesa, sometimes things can come across wrong way, so it's best to keep comment positive or just hold back... Everyone including yourself has nice experience here.
The site is a community forum and not competition ground.
There are people who are starting out ...brush painting over sticky fingerprint's.
Also there are amazingly talented artists like Lorraine here.
Everybody work n project is important to them, it's the enjoyment of the hobby above all, as you know for the nice work you have created yourself... Hopefully subject will move on now..🤣

Alexander Grivonev
What war mate, we are just having a chat 😄

Alexander Grivonev
Do they come pre built? I don't know..

Lorraine Lin
I believe that the friends in this community enjoy the process of building models, the satisfaction of removing the painting masks, and the interaction and sharing with mates here. Rather than showing off a pre-built model. I joined this community a little over a month ago, and I've seen many excellent works here, learned a lot of building techniques, and most importantly, had the opportunity to communicate with mates from all over the world. I feel connected with everyone, and I will continue to complete this project. Thank you for all your comments and support.

Kesa Tiho
I feel bad now

Lorraine Lin
@CaptGPF, yes, I press the copper foil against the kits to get the shape and details. I don't know "rubbing" is the right word the describe the process. And I plan to cover half of the fuselage. So it is called "cut away": )

Lorraine Lin
@Kesa, Don't be. Following your aircraft carrier project: )

Lorraine Lin
I applied Mr. Metal Primer-R as mates suggested here, it works well. The only thing is the surface is a little bit sticky even after 12 hrs. I guess this is how it prevents the painting from chipping.

Kesa Tiho
@lorraine i can see, i feel honoured to have one of my builds be followed by a skillful builder like you

CaptGPF
@Kesa - I don't think anyone took your post as inflammatory or starting a war - it's nice having conversations like this - and I think it's the best compliment once can receive when someone says "it looks too good". Be yourself!

Augie
Just awesome work.. a stunner!

Greg Baker
Now this is a project. Wow! Great work!

Guy Rump
Looking great, following. 👍

Mr D
Wander if the 🧸 bear gets sticky paws gluing all that PE together .... they make a talented team there pair..🤣
Coming on really well Lorraine.... interesting to see a different technique 🐻✌️

Desert Marlin
Excellent product.

Ben M
Very creative modeling. I enjoy seeing someone build something to this high of a standard as well as trying new things.

Lorraine Lin
Thank you Mates!
@Mr D, haha, actually she is a lovely fox, Lina Bell. My favorite friend in Disney Land 😄 I built a helicopter for her.
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Mr D
😁 your right a 🦊 fox got the pointy ears..fox's need to get about too 🤣
Really good...👍👍

Robert Podkoński
Looks awesome! Are you going to cover other fragments, Lorraine?

Alex Rakhimgulov
This is truly amazing, dedicated and insane project! Awesome!

Mr D
Propeller looking 👍 nice.
Care you planning to cover it all ??
Or have some of the model skeletal for a display-cutaway effect??

Lorraine Lin
Thank you Mate!
Robert and Mr D, I will not cover it all, maybe some part of the wing. Will leave it as cutaway effect.

Robert Podkoński
👍

Greg Baker
This MUST be left at least partially as a cutaway. Would be a crime to cover up all that intricate detail!

Lorraine Lin
Haha Greg, will not cover it all. Actually the skin is also removable as I attached it to the fuselage with TAMIYA craft bond.

Ludwig Micallef
Amazing work! 👏

gorby
WOW, stunning work!

Guy Rump
Excellent work! 👍

Mr D
Excellent, clever and Educational, Exhibition worthy work.
Been a joy to follow 😃🦊
✌️👍👍👍

Pietro De Angelis
I'm speechless, simply impressive!

Ben M
This is so great, and the skin is such a creative touch.

Alexander Grivonev
That is truly awesome👍

Robert Podkoński
Awesome indeed! Fantastic models and photos. You're a master modeller, Lorraine!

Desert Marlin
Awesome work! The contrast with a traditional kit makes the reality very clear!

BetterTimes-Henry
Wow!!!

Doubtingmango
Absolutely incredible! I can't imagine the patience required.

Lorraine Lin
Thank you for all your supports, gentlemen!

CaptGPF
Agree with doubtingmango - nothing less than incredible! I love the mounting and final presentation!

Jennifer Franklin
Absolutely gorgeous, very nice work.

Michael Kohl
Impressive result.

bughunter
From start to finish a fantastic project with beautiful models as result 👍

Christoph Kunz
Watching with interesst.
I've done one landing gear yesterday, very fiddly.

J35J
I'm in. Following👍🏻

Jakub Biganovsky
I am wondering how landing gear subassembly will fit; it will be next step.

Cuajete
Well done so far. Following!

Finn
I'm in

Łukasz Gliński
Joining the party

Robert Podkoński
Taking a seat.

Nicolas
Joining the fun.

J35J
The kit looks more "build friendly" than the DH88 Mikromir kit 1:48.
Looking forward to see the final result 👍🏻

Jakub Biganovsky
Yep, Clear props brough realy high level of plastic kits. They are not same level as Tamyia/Eduard or...., but still very high.
Nice fitting and approximate details make a building friendly. Some small part surfaces keep milling prints due to local missing polishing of mould, but still fine.

Michael Kohl
Following closely your progress as I have an eye on this kit. Nice additions you make and valuable experiences you share.

Guy Rump
Following. 👍

Cuajete
Good progress! 👍

Łukasz Gliński
I have to follow this as I still haven't started mine 👍

Ekki
I am in too.

art81
Is not as good as I thought but there is no better available 🙂

Łukasz Gliński
A lot better than Mistercrap anyway 😁

Sergej I
Following 👍

Maciej Bellos
In!!!

Dave Flitton
Watching!

Robert Podkoński
Watching for sure.

William Joel
First thought, WOW. Cockpit details not bad is an understatement. Nice job.

Guy Rump
Looking great, following. 👍

Skyhiker
Oh cool plane. The first domestically developed jet to be produced by Poland.

Nicolas
Graping a seat.

Łukasz Gliński
Nice progress - any problems with the nosejob?

art81
Yes Łukasz, there is many fittings problems ,primer shows a lots of them 😁

Łukasz Gliński
I see the belly was not only my problem 😉 Keep it up 👍