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17 July 2018, 00:40
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Aha! The dishonest penguin returns! Love the underside, great effort there!
17 July 2018, 04:03
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😉 Yes, I also really liked the result of underside!
But it also led to understanding that for camouflage of warm and bright colors it`s better not to experiment with black primer any more.
17 July 2018, 13:49
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It took many layers to hide black on areas for highlighting (on upper side), but these areas still look dirtier than I was imagining before painting. Next time I`ll try to paint the surface in dark tone of the wished color at first, not from complete black. Need more practicing (and knowledge of colors) 🙂
17 July 2018, 21:57
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I think you are overthinking it. Surely there is another area of the build you could make bigger gains with. If I produced the underside I would be in raptures!
17 July 2018, 23:51
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Yeah, you are right, I need some time to begin to look with an open mind.
Just try it, Peter! I used vallejo in mix with glaze medium and airbrush thinner to get semitransparent layers. In case of tamiya, well, I tried the same, but with mixing gloss varnish and thinner, and it wasn`t good enough. Tamiya is too opaque. Another way too add lots of thinner, but with my cheap aerograph it`s difficult to control highly diluted paint. Still on youtube Scaleton uses tamiya in similar technique, but I think he`s overdoing: Youtube Video
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18 July 2018, 00:49
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well, i did prime my F4-J in black, then give it a bit of white all around (not as elaborate as the video) and then cover it with a white and gray to give it a used look. i would suggest to have a look at Michael Phillips albums (Fighting 84 ) specially his last F-18 or his Viggen. he uses that technique in both. amazing results
18 July 2018, 10:25
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Nice work!
Its called black basing and its a really great technique and in my opinion looks much better than the normal pre shading.
doogsmodels.com/2014..hnique-black-basing/
18 July 2018, 12:19
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Thank you, Sören! I saw this blog, and like Doog`s thoughts about shading, you can say, that he was one of inspirers for this work. 🙂
18 July 2018, 12:50
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Spanjaard, I don`t say, that black priming isn`t good technique, it works great with grey and light blue colors, but with sand or yellow, I think it should be red or orange base (primer`s) color.
Hmm, I looked at Fighting 84`s album about Viggen, seems, that he just used solid layers over this primer, not semitransparent, and some postshading after decals. Still his F-18 and Viggen both are great!
Well, now I also want to build a phantom .... Or at least, I should complete sanding and riveting on my Mig-23ML...
18 July 2018, 13:10
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For Orange I agree.
I used a yellow base color for my orange and it looks much better as with a black base.
X-1 - s/n 46-063 - Eduard 1/48 - WIP | Album by Floppar (1:48)
18 July 2018, 13:16
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I like to weather my Cats the old way with the salt technique. Messy but a lot of fun.🙂
18 July 2018, 13:29
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Reading all of this, watching all the movie clips from Doog's Models and Scale-a-ton and trying a little bit of black basing with some blue for a distinct blueish tone for myself, I can say that black basing is great for grey or otherwise subdued schemes. However, as Robber is painting 'vibrant' yellow and brown colors, I think a lighter or even more colorful base will do the trick better and gives a more vibrant feel to the end result.
Oh, and by the way... Build that Phantom! 🙂 👍
18 July 2018, 13:30
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Michael, I never tried salt technique, and I`m using chipping fluid for the first time actually on my scalemates.com/kits/1134519-..216405-rgm-79sp-gm-sniper-ii So, next time I`ll try salt on something else)
18 July 2018, 14:34
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salt and chipping, i have to really try myself...
and as Patrick said... build that Phantom 😄 😄
18 July 2018, 15:08
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Ok, you got me in. I don't build rocks with wings but I could try on an old bike fuel tank!
18 July 2018, 21:53