The Courage of the Small Hours
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66 5 September 2020, 14:34
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Watching with a lot of interest Andy. I will start this Lanc Revell Kit next week!!
15 September 2020, 16:38
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@Micky: my cousin married a farmer whose family bought the airfield back from the RAF after the war - the original WWII control tower has been restored and the hangers have been used for dry-storage. Only the runways are dug up, the layout is still plain to see. There's a book called "On the Wings of Freedom" which details RAF Bottesford: originally Manchesters flew until the Lancs arrived including briefly PO@S, then the USAAF...Somewhere I have a photo of the Tamiya model held by one of the Australians who flew from the airfield. My cousin had a WWII reunion in 1995 for those who could still make it (they were in their 70's and 80's), they had hundreds who came from all over the world!, and they still keep coming...often the children/grandchildren.
16 September 2020, 18:22
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@Andy...cool...what a story! Such a place with that history...lots of emotions. Thanks for sharing!
16 September 2020, 23:10
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@Andy I'm in as usual. I have the Revell kit on its way for my war memorial collection so will be following closely for tips and inspiration. 👍
17 September 2020, 18:19
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Definitely watching, I'll be building the older version of the Airfix model soon so I'll be interested to see the differences. 🙂
19 September 2020, 17:01
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I'm watching this one! Really interesting to see the differences in manufacturing quality from Andy's descriptions.
19 September 2020, 18:04
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@Guillaume, David, Guy, Monkyslut: many thanks for your comments and interest. @Guy, if you have Gen-2 Airfix Lancaster (not the burning engine landing box art, Gen-1), it is apparently good. Third generation, (this one), lifted the bar in details/engineering - not, apparently, dimensional accuracy. @Monkyslut: I'll do my humble bit for comparison - I think there has been a three-way comparison somewhere [Hyperscale?] including the Hasegawa mould, and theirs is an overpriced, less-accurate kit according to sources. I've bought both my kits...so I have no partisan interests in either.
21 September 2020, 09:55
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Thanks Andy, I'm just interested to see how the Airfix offering stands up to direct competition.
Plus as a bonus it double ticks my weakness for heavy bombers 😉
21 September 2020, 10:38
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@Monkyslut: I think Revell's edging it over 'fix currently - ironic: German company does RAF heavy bombers really well - Stirling/Halifax/Lancaster.....
22 September 2020, 22:25
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be interesting to build the old Airfix stirling against the Italeri offering.Lots of US in 48 but no Brit bombers,shame.
22 September 2020, 22:47
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I have to keep reminding myself this is 1/72. Looking awesome on both so far Andy.
27 September 2020, 15:15
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This is brilliant stuff! The details are fantastic, if I can achieve half of this I'll be satisfied😉
27 September 2020, 15:52
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Good progress Andy, I am starting the Revell's Lanc so I will watch with interest. Thanks for sharing!
28 September 2020, 02:59
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Guillaume Blanchet
Nice to see the progression. Looks bigger tahn 1/72
I could spot the Airfix just by the decals. They are on the thick side. I remember having to use lots & lots of decal softener to have the rivets ans other molded details show trough the decals. Bur I really like the little map. My kind of details..
28 September 2020, 10:32
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@Nathan: thanks for the comments....save to say, the Revell's proving the more 'fluent' of the two builds. @Monkyslut: what?, you?...you'll double it and more!.... @Micky: she's a good kit...in UK it's £10 (one-third) cheaper than Airfix, and not one third less in quality. I say, spend less on the plastic and transfer the savings to some after-market additions. @Guillaume: the map shows "target tonight.....Dresden" by the looks! @ Dave: smooth and some clear-air turbulence to report thus far!....
28 September 2020, 14:06
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The Revell one is looking good, the Airfix one, well I'm sure your perseverance will reward you with your usual high standard aircraft. 🙂
28 September 2020, 16:11
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It seems that I wrong to buy the one from Airfix. Good progress, Andy 👍.
28 September 2020, 17:59
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If push comes to shove the Airfix one could metamorph into its predecessor.
28 September 2020, 18:09
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Great stuff andy, and stunning detailwork here 👍
Just have to check the halves with my Lanc B.II by Airfix. That looks horrible pic 7,8
28 September 2020, 18:14
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With my Lancaster fit is fine and no warping effect!
but why Airfix has tooled it with 11!!! ejector pins on each fuselage half?
28 September 2020, 20:12
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@Daniel: glad yours is cool, I think their plastic and no doubt the moulding process adds to the issues. The Do-17 has issues too- around the bomb bay and wing spar sections.
28 September 2020, 20:46
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@David: do you mean make it into a Manchester?....I'll keep preserving!
28 September 2020, 20:48
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BY all accounts with its X24 cylinder Vulture engines the Manchester was a mare,nobody like to fly in it .
29 September 2020, 18:59
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So, autumn's here....the outside workshop I work in is a bit cold and damp 🙁
The air compressor seems to be shooting through condensation into the paint, (grrrrr), and paid-work is eating into the evening's light.
But, I soldier on....., inspired by the BBMF Lancaster that made a pass over the village yesterday enroute I guess to RAF Coningsby/Scampton....4 Merlins playing their sweet symphony...... Inspiration and mojo re-awakened.....and a couple of photos added to show I'm not dead yet....
16 October 2020, 08:57
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Have you got a condensation trap on your compressor?
Worthwhile addition if ya painting in typical dank British autumn & winter 👍
Wish I'd seen the Lanc!......... my inspiration had to come from many beers 😉
16 October 2020, 09:32
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Indeed I do Munkyslut, I drain it, but there's still some condensation in it, are you able to give any advice?, I am in the process - when I can - of looking on YouT for airbrush troubleshooting, I'm deep-cleaning the H&S too.
16 October 2020, 09:48
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Glad to see you're alive 👍 Damp is coming everywhere, not only in the UK😉
Looking forward to reading some comparison observations between Revell and Airfix.
16 October 2020, 10:32
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Haha Ł, very much so...no COVID here, yet. Feel I have a whole project to re-equip my studio with insulation and heat....and may change the compressor too. I guess you'll have more extreme weather where you are than us damp-Englanders!
16 October 2020, 10:52
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Not so much actually, at least in my corner of the country😉
I guess the extreme damp counts as extreme weather, doesn't it?😉
16 October 2020, 11:00
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@Lukasz extreme damp feels like a particularly under-stated British bit of extreme weather. Not for us the hurricane, cyclones, Twisters, blizzards and monsoons that other parts of the world justifiably label as extreme 🙂
17 October 2020, 07:48
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Saying that I heard that rainfall to date in October ( the wettest on record) was enough to fill Loch Ness! Not sure if that has been scientifically verified though.
17 October 2020, 07:52
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@Gary: has the estimation included the Nessie?😉 Sorry for OT, Mr.A😉
17 October 2020, 08:24
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My 2 cents on the water in the compressor issue. Mine dosent have a purge valve so I try to keep it in a dry place. Usually Inside the house close to a heating source. I also let it purge itself when strating it up fo9r a few minutes. But if there is too much humidity in the air the water will accumulate again in the compressor. At that point, I usually purge it again when necessary for 2 minute and always spray away from the model to check if there is water before directing the paint stream toward my model.
Good luck with your studio improvement.
17 October 2020, 12:08
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Andy good to see you're active again although focussing in on the big Spits it looks like. How fairs the Lanc?
23 April 2021, 15:55
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Hi Gary, yes the Lancs are on the workbench too, just a little to the right....they're being painted when I get to the Spit's Dk.Green/Earth - goal to finish all by summer!
23 April 2021, 20:27
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We have progress on Revell's offering- I will be held short by the decalling issues though. (Photo 22). The great thing about a Lancaster is you can build the sections independently- wings and tail planes…
2 July 2022, 22:15
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From what I've been able to look up, the Lancaster WOII Rathbone was flying LM308 which was part of 5LFS (Lancaster Finishing School) which had the Sqn code CE. Hope that helps.
3 July 2022, 07:57
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Hi Andy, I've noticed something else that might help. on one of the sites it mentions Lancaster I LM308. The Lanc that they were flying that morning was a Mk III so the call sign could? have been CE I (I'm confident that CE is correct). Hope that helps. 🙂
3 July 2022, 10:54
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Thanks Guy, I noted the chronology of 5LFS crashes in our area. In the spring-summer of 1944 they were all RC@x. Then EE134 crashed at Syerston in November 1944 with code CE@O, which appears the time they changed the squadron code. My 2 Lancasters were Jan-45 as you know. I'm going to contact the records office in Kew and see if they can help. Thanks so much for the comments!
3 July 2022, 18:52
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@David: I've got a reference from Kew: AIR 29/614/4...they talk of 5LFS and hopefully may have the details of the unit's planes and sorties...., but I will ask IWM too, thanks.
4 July 2022, 17:42
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Thanks Cuajete- trying to level both builds up...Revell's ahead by about a day/day and a half...
5 July 2022, 17:45
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Both kits are now nearly level at build stages - see photos.
It really is a case of "you pays your money, you takes your choice"....
Airfix is the better product (if the warping wasn't there I'd be even more impressed), but Revell is a sweet little build and 2/3rds the price of Airfix (when I purchased here in the U.K.).
Without sounding smug, I'm not really on a budget when it comes to model acquisitions and building, so I'd take the Airfix one just ahead of Revell's offering.
21 July 2022, 18:23
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Well done Andy. These feel a like a long time coming! You must be really glad with the progress you've made now. Fab stuff
21 July 2022, 21:52
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Huge project Andy and research as well. History is always present in your projects and is always a key part for us as modelers. Looking very good the 2 Lancs! Cheers
22 July 2022, 04:04
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@Gary: I'd be no use in the Ministry for Aircraft Production!! I think this will be finished soon- to be frank, I'm a bit fed up with trying to clear the workbench- but it is the cause of doing these that keeps you going! I really thought I'd have finished Revell today, another 3 hours and I'll declare 'landed'.
22 July 2022, 16:19
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@Micky: yep. Bit off more than I could chew, but this is important to those who met their violent end in pastures 400-600m from my house 🙁
22 July 2022, 16:20
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What will you be using for aerial wire Andy.I still have some stretchy filament from Aeroclub,dreading running out.
22 July 2022, 18:27
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Hi David, great prompt!, I'd almost forgotten…
I'll use Ushi's "rig that thing', I think it's a nylon filament, strong , stretchy but a bugger to unravel!
22 July 2022, 19:55
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@Villiers, many thanks, I've learned from Revell's and will apply a slightly different technique to Airfix.
24 July 2022, 13:45
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Great results. Food for thought for the Revell Lanc I have in my stash. 👍
31 July 2022, 13:23
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Yes Guy, I'd say Airfix wins it by a head and neck. The dihedral is more realistic, the upper mid turret looks better and what were Revell thinking of with their aerials? But Revell still is a great kit, good that you can leave the wings off to aid painting.
31 July 2022, 16:58
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Thanks Cuajete- hope I've enlightened anyone to these excellent kits. Of course, it's only my opinion!
31 July 2022, 18:27
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Thanks for looking in at the end David. One day there may be a display stand to go with these.
31 July 2022, 18:28
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Grand looking Lanc, A. Lovely subtle weathering 👍 It really makes me consider starting mine after the summer.
31 July 2022, 19:18
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Once I figure out how to download pictures from my phone you can have a giggle at my offerings.
31 July 2022, 19:58
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Congratulations Andy! Following since inception. Very happy that you got the RC of the 5 finishing school. Excellent work and research. Very instructive. I am currently making an specific misión of an A4Q from Argentina and enjoyed a lot the research and modifications to the Argentinean versión that even Airfix missed. I I deeply understand the tribute that we try to give. Cheers my friend!
31 July 2022, 22:09
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Thanks Ł, I can't wait to see your start, plenty of Polish ones to model surely?- which make is it?
23 August 2022, 16:29
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Thanks Micky, loving the Argie Scooter you're doing. Likewise, you're paying your homage to those who had to do their duty irrespective of the outcome.
23 August 2022, 16:32
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@Neuling- you are so, so kind. They meant a lot to me to get them right. I walk past the memorial to both crews just about every day.
22 September 2022, 18:16