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Marius (Redicus)
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MiG-17F - Syria - 1967

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85 6 January 2023, 20:11
Mikel
Your paintwork compensates the weaker points of the kit. Well done.
 16 April 2023, 01:18
Marius
Thank you for the positive feedback Mikel!

 16 April 2023, 07:21
Cuajete
Nice start, Marius.
Painting job and weathering looks great 👍
 16 April 2023, 18:36
Andy Ball
I didn't realise you were working on this one too? I think we've encountered similar challenges regarding fit? Yours looks great!!
 16 April 2023, 21:26
Marius
Thank you Cuajete and Andy for stopping by.
Andy, I am currently having 3 MiG-17s in work and I might be starting 2 more quite soon.
The work on the other two ones is slower, so I posted the Syrian one first.
Yes, we definitely encountered the same fit issues. But in the end, there are far worse kits out there.
 17 April 2023, 06:06
Bernd Grün
A nice looking 'Fresco', Marius. Great paint job and weathering. Cheers! 👍
 17 April 2023, 07:07
Daniel Klink
Fantastic Result Marius 👍
 26 May 2023, 20:39
Shar Dipree
Very nice Mig-17 👍
 27 May 2023, 06:22
Curatorm
Exquisite model, very fine work.
 27 May 2023, 08:15
Marius
Thank you mates! Four more are in work.
 27 May 2023, 14:58
Christian Bruer
Very nice work and finish 👍
 30 May 2023, 13:04
Marius
Thank you Christian and Cuajete! ✌️
 30 May 2023, 17:00
Mid Franconian
Great MiG! I suppose the original one did not survive Israeli air raids during Six Day War…
 30 May 2023, 17:33
Marius
Thank you Franconian for the comment, I am happy you like it!

I can't tell much about the number 2300 itself. But as a matter of fact, the SyAAF was by no means battered in the first day of the war, unlike the wide spread perception. I have written a little bit about this in my Syrian MiG-21F-13 project (MiG-21F-13 - Syria - 1967 | Project by Redicus (1:72)). There were plans made even before the war to evacuate the aircraft to the northern airbases in case of an Israeli attack. Since Egyptian bases were hit first, there was some time to save most aircraft. A few Syrian MiG-17s were still hit on ground, but most Syrian MiG-17s lost during the Six Day War were actually lost during ground attacks against the advancing IDF shot down by ground fire during rather uncoordinated or chaotic actions. I don't have exact numbers right now but I can recheck the literature if needed. It is hard to say how many actually survived the Six Day War, but many certainly lived long enough to see extensive action later in 1973. I am actually working on another Syrian MiG-17 from 1973 (with camouflage painting).
 30 May 2023, 18:38
Simon Nagorsnik
Top metal finish !
Really like it👍👍
 27 August 2023, 07:10
Neuling
As Simon sez !
 27 August 2023, 07:18
Pierre Pierre
Inspiring ! Very nice finsh
 27 August 2023, 12:18
Cuajete
Great job.
Congrats!
 27 August 2023, 17:34
Rui S
Excellent 👍
 27 August 2023, 23:47
Raphael Bernecole
Very nice model ! Congratulations ! 🙂
 28 August 2023, 08:10
Łukasz Gliński
I missed it somehow, very neat 👍
 28 August 2023, 12:30
Mr James
Top metal finish indeed. Well done.
 28 August 2023, 12:47
Marius
Thank you so much mates, highly appreciated! I think lightning and photography are quite important at the end. I am certainly not mastering this part.

I managed to recently finish another related MiG-17:
MiG-17PF - Egypt - 1967 | Album by Redicus (1:72)
 11 September 2023, 19:31
Andy Ball
The lighting and photography are superfluous to a great build completed! Bravo!!
 11 September 2023, 21:50
Clement
Looks like I missed this one, it's a lovely Mig-17.
Nice Mig-17 and Mig-19 collection, Marius!
 5 November, 19:56
Guy Rump
Excellent job! 👍
 5 November, 21:06
Marius
Thank you Clement and Guy!
I like these early metallic chimney pipes, especially the ones from the dark side.
 6 November, 15:08

Album info

While Egypt already had the opportunity to use the MiG-17s for the first time during the Suez War (November 1956), Syria received the first delivery of MiG-17s only shortly after the conflict. Just to avoid any confusion in this text, Syria was not directly involved in the Suez War. It is certain, that the MiG-17s entered service with the SyAAF wearing the initial SyAAF roundels with the green contour and three red stars.

During the existence of the United Arab Republic (UAR), meaning the political union of Egypt and Syria (1958-1961), the two air forces merged completely sharing therefore the aircraft insignia as well. The green colour from the old Syrian flag and roundels was replaced by red, while the three stars became only two. Not all Syrian aircraft were as hastly repainted with the new insignia.

Due to several divergences, unequal and unfair treatment by the Egyptian military command towards the Syrian side and as a result of an internal coup in Syria, Syria decided to leave the UAR in 1961. The infamous Egyptian Vice-president Abdel Hakim Amer was one of the main characters to blame for the constant tensions, the same person held responsible for the disaster of the Egyptian Army during the Six Day War (I mentioned an interesting event involving him in this other project: MiG-17PF - Egypt - 1967 | Album by Redicus (1:72)).

Upon leaving Syria, the Egyptian crews basically evacuated almost everything that could be taken from the Syrian airbases. The newly reformed SyAAF was left with only approximately 40 MiG-17s as a main attack aircraft. The SyAAF also changed the insignia and flag again, adding a third star once more while keeping the red contour.

A further try at a military alliance resulted in the UAC (United Arab Command), which aimed at coordinating several Arab countries in case of a war with Israel. Egypt had once more the main leading role. A particularly interesting directive was applied in 1964 and required military aircraft to wear very clear red identification stripes on the nose, wing tips and tails. The SyAAF is known to have applied these stripes to the MiG-17s and MiG-21F-13s by 1967.

As the Six Days War started, most machines of the two aircraft types in the SyAAF service obviously had these red markings still on. An extremely rare color photograph taken 1 day (!) before the Six Day War (see album) reveals this feature for a row of MiG-17s aligned on an airfield outside Damascus. Note the national markings, not one aircraft still had the markings of pre-1961 with green, as often wrongly depicted in color profiles of aircraft, decal sheets or kit intructions.

To be noted that up to this moment in time, there was no such thing as camouflage painting on any of the Soviet made aircraft in the service of any of the Arab countries. Except for the MiG-19s (which were grey from delivery, see for example my project: MiG-19S - Egypt - 1967 | Album by Redicus (1:72)) all Soviet-made combat aircraft of Syria, Egypt and Iraq were left either in their initial metallic finish.

The operations of the SyAAF MiG-17s during the Six Day War were plagued by command and coordination issues caused by rivalries between factions within the SyAAF itself but also between the SyAAF and ground troops. The MiG-17s couldn't be effectively used in a ground support role. Several losses are known to have occured due to ground fire or air combat, but this still could not stop the IDF concquer the Golan Heights.

The MiG-17s further played a signifficant role in the October War (1973) and were subsequently retired from service at the end of the 1970s.

T. Copper, D. Nicolle, et al., "Arab MiGs Volume 1", Harpia Publishing
T. Copper, D. Nicolle, et al., "Arab MiGs Volume 2", Harpia Publishing
T. Copper, D. Nicolle, et al., "Arab MiGs Volume 3", Harpia Publishing
T. Copper, D. Nicolle, et al., "Arab MiGs Volume 5", Harpia Publishing
T. Copper, D. Nicolle, et al., "Arab MiGs Volume 6", Harpia Publishing
T. Copper, D. Nicolle, "MiGs in the Middle East, Volume 2", Helion and Company
Bill Norton, "75 Years of the Israeli Air Force, Volume 1", Helion and Company

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