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Doubtingmango
So I just finished this little Italian job. The decals came out with a lot of the edges showing, which then got a lot worse when I added some washes. I used Microset on the decals, and then sealed them with Tamiya semi-gloss before the washes, but it actually looks like the washes got under the decals. Any thoughts?

Bogicevic Vladimir
It looks like you haven't spray gloss coat before you applied decals. Or decals didn't set well. There are two solutions. One is lacquer thinner. Put the thinner with fine brush in dots over the place where you have silvering. Thinner should destroy the film. If it raises paint under, just leave it, it will settle back. Important thing here is that, once you applied thinner, you shouldn't touch decal for something like 20 minutes, at least. Second way is mix of sugar and water, half - half. You make a hole with a needle on the decal, than you put mix on the top. It should enter in the space between decal and paint and, when drayed, make a gloss film in between them which will act as a gloss under the decal. Wipe excess mix with wet cloath and you are done.

Mr James
How annoying. I've never heard of the sugar water trick from Bogicevic. I'll be interested if this works. If the thinner, sugar trick fails, what else can you do but use a scalpel to cut around them, since you've sealed it,

Mr James
Oh, nice paintjob by the way

Doubtingmango
Thanks mates! I believe Bogicevic is right. I think I did fail to gloss coat before the decals. I think I'll try the sugar water first

Ingo F
Amazing work mate! 👍

Jakub Wiraszka
Thanks Ingo, I must admit it was a little challenge for me but I can't look on what Trumpy just threw into the box. Sadly but as always Trumpy became good base for huge amount of work...

Ingo F
Unfortunately that's true, but on the other hand it's good because you can do a lot on the model yourself. There's nothing interesting about a perfect model out of the box. I also have this model in my stash. I intend to convert it into the T-84-120 Yatagan (object 478N1).

Jakub Wiraszka
Ingo what I meant was rather huge amount of work with imperfections and a lot of mistakes in T-84 shapes that Trumpy did.... for instance T-80U from RPG also need some work but even if You will decide to make only out of the box model You'll will have quite nice result.
At the very beginning I tried to build T-84U obj.478DU-5 (Turkish tender if I'm not mistaken). Unfortunatelly, to few reference photos made to build DU-9 version. But anyway Yatagan is great idea as well, fingers crossed.

Ingo F
Unfortunately, this is almost always the case with Trumpy when it comes to quality and accuracy. In many cases, parts from other kits are recycled and the whole thing is sold as a new kit. Whether the kit is then really close to the real model is a different matter. Well, it will be interesting to see how the T-80U models from Amusing Hobby and Rye Field Model turn out. I wonder if they will also bring out the other versions of the T-80. I'm still considering whether to get it with or without the interior.

Jakub Wiraszka
I've seen some photos and it's clear that RFM will release the T-80UK right after the T-80U. But I have already seen some shortcomings, some details are not in scale, but overall I think this could be an example of a model with a good price-quality ratio. Anyway, I really like the rubber RPG parts...

Ingo F
I'm thinking about getting the interior version from Amusing. Assemble it and then i will draw the area that is visible with open hatches in 3D. I can then print this out if necessary and add it to the model. You don't need the complete interior, 95% of which will not be visible. That's what I intend to do with the T-72 and T-90 models from Amusing.

Jakub Wiraszka
That's great idea. With interior maybe someday🙂 recently I dont have time even to build without it....

MythialEn
If you don't mind, could you list some of the inaccuracy about this kit? I also wants to build this kit with accuracy but not sure where to start.

Cortex
Wow, extreme detailing. Excited for this build!

Jakub Wiraszka
MythialEn
modelwork.pl/topic/5..-9-trumpeterscratch/ here You can find full build with details it ia in polish but I think you can easily translate this to english. It is better to follow the thread in forum than listing all corrections and changes, simply there are to many of them. I hope it will help You

Jakub Wiraszka
thanks Cortex, I don't know when i'll finish. Simply dont have enough time... nevertheles the time sooner than later will come 🙂

Michael Kohl
Fantastic multimedia show. Almost too beautiful to put color on.

Neuling
🙂

Dominik Weitzer
what a lot of changes - it looks so good unpainted 🙂 . great work!

Jakub Wiraszka
Thanks Dominik, I have similar feelings 😄