hetzer problem !!!!!
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8 July 2014, 18:58
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Are you 100% sure it was constructed properly? Because if I check the instructions of the kit it would seem there can't really be any gaps? It's really strange...
I have tried to explain what I mean in the image below.
But of course, it being a Dragon kit and all, I wouldn't be surprised if you have a kit that has received updated parts to correct errors during the course of it's existence and you have a box from before the updates 🤔
The problem is, what you have there looks totally wrong. The Hetzer didn't have any gaps like that at all. The ball joint, on which the barrel is connected in the interior (to be able to turn the gun), should be tightly pushing against the walls of the outer mantlet (the part welded to the upper hull).
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8 July 2014, 19:19
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Actually, it looks like the hole in the outer mantlet (which I numbered [2] in my previously posted image) looks way too big... ?
Anyone else have any suggestions?? 🙁
8 July 2014, 19:20
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I will try to contact academy and see if I can get one of their sprues... and yes. Totally constructed correctly . But the cyberhobby mid version was perfect.....
8 July 2014, 19:24
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Man, that is weird...
It's definitely one or two parts that are not correct. Maybe you should contact the Dragon Importer for your region and see if you can get hold of proper parts? I mean, if you show them this image they should damn well recognize that something is amiss!
8 July 2014, 19:30
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It looks pretty bad, but I guess if you´re putting the barrel far down, it wouldn´t look that empty... just an emergency solution, but maybe a solution...
8 July 2014, 19:39
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Sxrew it
thisnis a tank fro~ the last days of the reich. I will cover the front in camo netting 🙂
8 July 2014, 19:39
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Hahaha! That would solve the problem too, I guess! 😄 👍 Good call! 😄
8 July 2014, 19:40
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Thanks !!!! 😄 but dragon should release an al new tool of a mainstream kit of the early, mid, and late production of the hetzer
8 July 2014, 19:43
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I agree! I am still waiting for them to release a new Hetzer, not a re-box of the old stuff. But yeah, Dragon still has a few fairly new molds they need to milk, so I'm not holding my breath 😉
8 July 2014, 20:55
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Honestly, I think that market is (at least pretty much) lost to Academy... offering pretty good quality for a price Dragon can´t beat... (in fact half of the normal retail of ordinary Dragon kits)
8 July 2014, 21:17
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While the academy kits are good, they are not great. Dragon could do MUCH better. If nothing else then at least with some magic tracks 😉
But no, honestly, I think Dragon could slide mold a Hetzer where no PE or any after-market items would be needed. If they do that, I will buy it! 🙂
8 July 2014, 21:58
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Looking at photo's of the real thing, it looks like an the lower interior mantlet is missing. If it's a kit-design flaw, can you fabricate something to fill the gap (perhaps a u-shaped piece of plastic sheet)?
8 July 2014, 22:15
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Looks like the kit is flawed. Check this for example modellversium.de/gal..8t-frueh-dragon.html last picture.
8 July 2014, 22:24
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It probably is flawed and now im sure of it
I will try that george.
but if no luck, then I will just throw on some camo netting 🙂
8 July 2014, 22:28
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Its sadly this kit.
Jagdpanzer 38 (t) "Hetzer" early (Dragon 6030, 1:35)
im glad I used the crappy aber set on it lol
8 July 2014, 22:59
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It worked 🙂 thanks george for the suggestion
but lets see how it looks under some paint
9 July 2014, 02:04
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@hunter: yeah, indeed! Glad you used that Aber set instead of something more worthy!
Closing the gap shouldn't be a problem with some plastic card, etc. but the actual problem is that the outer mantlet and hole in the mantlet (where the barrel exits) simply aren't correct.
In the model: the ball joint of the barrel is recessed too far inwards (leaving one gap) and the hole in the front of the outer mantlet is way too big (making the gaps even bigger). See comparison image below.
I probably wouldn't put too much effort into this, as it will still look weird and incorrect even if you close the gap, and stick with your plan of camouflaging the issue, literally 😄
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9 July 2014, 07:14
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I will for sure stay with the camo metting. Plus it will look cooler lol
im glad I didnt use my eduard set that has fenders boxes side skirts and ecery thing else
if I did I would have called dragon a reamed there a*ses for a new kit lol
but I still gotmy engin set and metat barrel and eduard set thankfully lol
so until dragon re toold their early kit and co, es out with an all new tool of a mid and late production one
academy is the way to go. I built the black night series mid production version and it was perfect all around. They fixed the mantlet and gun ball. And theres o gap.
but I still hear the academy kit is better besides the tracks lol
9 July 2014, 14:25
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Yeah, absolutely! Lucky you didn't use anything worth while on that kit.
If they updated the Black Knight Hetzer, I wonder if they also did that with the #9148 Orange Box Hetzer? I can't really find any images of what's in the box in that one.
Don't forget the Tamiya Hetzer 😉 it is better compared to the Academy kit. But then again, also twice the price. I just didn't think it was worth it, so I went with the Academy kit. And that really IS a fine kit. I can recommend getting it 👍
No issues at all. No flash anywhere. Everything fits perfectly. And while the detail is not great, it most definitely is good enough. Especially when you do some PE upgrades here and there. The detail is a little bit soft in some areas but I don't think anyone would really notice on a finished model 🙂
9 July 2014, 15:12
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Yaaay but im going to get the late production because of the mask set 😄
I love hetzers
I just wish for dragon lol
9 July 2014, 19:57
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I'm doing the Late Version in my new project (damn you, Hunter! 😛) mostly OOB. So you can judge detail levels for yourself easily 🙂 kind of a "try before you buy" 😉
But yeah, I also still have hope for Dragon to do the right thing 😉 I seriously love Hetzers as well!! 👍 👍
9 July 2014, 20:00
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You are so dang lucky lol
arent you happy? 😉 😛 I will contact dragon about it tommorrow acctually lol and how cant you haha
9 July 2014, 20:13
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I am very happy! 😄
And I'll also go annoy Dragon about it 😉 in fact, let's all do that, kind of a "group annoy", entirely in the spirit of this forum 😄
9 July 2014, 20:53
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Fabian,
yea becuase on my mig ammo late war colors set it has a KT in that scheme. My review of the set is on armorama soon.
Holger, thank you !!! I might work on the track mud a nit more and alter the mud a lottle but other than that, shes done ! 🙂
2 August 2014, 16:52
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Thanks Gabor! Stunning to get such a nice comment from someone with your skill
2 August 2014, 18:28
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Wow Hunter, you did a very good job on this one!! 👍 Really great! 🙂
14 August 2014, 15:42
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Hey That is very Good I like your camo pattern. How was the Photoecthing?
14 August 2014, 18:56
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I love photo etch but the aber set is so inaccurate and badly done. Get eduard or anyone else but aber!!!!!!
And thank you verymuch I like the camo to lol
I used mig ammo late war german camoflage set
14 August 2014, 19:12
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John or anybody please help!!!!