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Sy Bar (Sybar)
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D-Day Tempest

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As can be seen the older Revell kit is all raised panel lines and rivets, as can be expected on a kit of its age 
 

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Modern Airfix kit panel line/surface detail. Looks to my eyes a good representation of the plane 
 

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Revell raised detail I’ll try and remove and replace will use Airfix kit as ref 
 

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Inside of airframe detail/lack of. To be fare the Revell you can see into cockpit much, so I’ll do it in flight 
 

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Airfix pilot looks fine for 1/72 although I’ll no use him here as Airfix will be wheels down and open cockpit and Revell will be wheels up 
 

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Revell seams to be piloted by Mickey Mouse 
 

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The older kit appears to have slightly more rounded wing tips but I’ll not loose sleep over which is more correct  
 

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Dry fit and both look good although the Revell will need shims at wing roots and airfix needs smidge off the piece that slide over the radiator to fit well 
 

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Marked up for scribing before removal of bumps 
 

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Before and after 
 

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It takes time but I think I like my new look over the original 
 

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Scribing on the older Revell kit all done. Also as an experiment the panel lines have been “pre-shaded” with a Posca pen to compare with the Airfix kit which will be more traditional  
 

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F/Lt Pierre Clostermann post mask clipping and now ready to fly 
 

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On board in the highly detailed cockpit of the Revell kit 
 

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Forgot to photo befor joining the halfs 
 

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Hope to have the canopy open but in case here’s the seat 
 

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Airfix undercarriage doors temporary use of flush doors as blanks, as it will be wheels down 
 

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Airfix prop 
 

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Pretty in pink, base coat of Revell kit 
 

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Revell prop revealed 
 

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ID markings to be painted first 
 

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Airfix 
 

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Revell 
 

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Decided to use the AK REAL Colors set on both kits. Part of the “WWII RAF Aircraft Colors Real Color Paint Set” RCS107 AK Interactive 
 

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Airfix top, Revell bottom 
 

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De-masked 
 

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Both full stripped  
 

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Formation flying 
 

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Decals worked well for both, start of weathering also 
 

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Store added to the Revell, I added the pigtails otherwise as kit. Also after weathering 
 

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Airfix have a great design for the wheel bay door which via use of tabs gives the correct angle of the doors 
 

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No idea why the tail plane look bent looks fine in flesh 
 

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All done. Just to confuse the Revell is on the Airfix stand and the Airfix is on the ground ? 
 

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Finished 
 

Opmerkingen

46 29 May, 14:18
Sy Bar
With D-Day fast approaching thought I'd build the two 1/72 kits I have and compare them side by side
29 May, 14:22
Sy Bar
The kits are more than a generation apart with the Airfix the youngest (2022) and Revell (1982) the old timer
30 May, 08:15
Sy Bar
The decals for the Revell kit are actually copyrighted 1993. This kits had a full life
30 May, 13:32
Pierre Pierre
thank you for the comparative very interesting
2 June, 14:45
Nicolas
Great comparison. I build the Revell kit in the 90s, so it's great to be reminded to this build and too see how much better the models are nowadays.
2 June, 18:50
Łukasz Gliński
Very cool comparison 👍
3 June, 08:41
Sy Bar
As I'm doing side by side I thought I would tryout a new method of shading panel line ie with a Posca marker instead of my shaky airbrush pre shade. As long as I done apply to main colours too thickly it'll be interesting to see if there is difference in the look of the two paint jobs
4 June, 18:16
Łukasz Gliński
Not sure what paints you spray, but the lacquers tend to interact with the marker leftovers (even covered already by other paint, e.g. acrylic)
Guess how do I know that 😄
4 June, 19:06
Sy Bar
#Gliński interesting info, hopefully it is only a problem with lacquers which I don't use but it'll be fascinating to find out if you can get away with just acrylic as Posca pens are suppose to be acrylic too
4 June, 20:46
Dave Flitton
Watching your efforts
5 June, 03:41
Sy Bar
F/Lt Pierre Clostermann despite the strange elongated face mask (which I just clipped) is fairly detailed for 1/72 he even has his hands on the control column 😁
5 June, 16:25
Ben M
Watching as well!
5 June, 16:26
Sy Bar
The experiments continue, Airfix black basing I'll also paint the ID markings first on the Revel, the Airfix I will do ID markings post camo paint jobs. l
12 June, 15:34
Sy Bar
I forgot to mention something I think Airfix should be highly praised on their method of attaching the canopy to the body. They used a body with an indent which when combined with the clear part ensures a perfect fit.. I've not come across this method before but it's a great method
12 June, 16:00
Sy Bar
First time using AK REAL Colors Lacquer based paint. I like it sprays very well thinned a little more well with Mr Color thinner and no smell, but that could be due to my head cold.
12 June, 22:39
Sy Bar
Well the use of marker pen (Posca) has given mixed results. As #Gliński said they could interact badly with over paints. I have indeed had issue with peeling but only on the white where I added the white on top of marked grey primer, else where when marker was first covered by grey primer (mr surfacer 1500) it seams to be fine. So more tests needed. The white was also Mr Surfacer and while at the time I said I use acrylic paints I've just found AK REAL Color lacquer paints and so far love them.
14 June, 06:27
Pierre Pierre
thanks a lot for the updates.!
17 June, 16:51
Vincent
Great project!
20 June, 19:00
Sy Bar
The decals went down well on both kits. They both have minimal carrier film and registers seam spot on. The Revell star printed in Italy but don't mention the manufacturer we know from Italy, while Airfix keep origin under wraps.
They settled down nicely with micro sol & set although the Airfix require a little more help from a stronger setter.
Must admit not a fan of the separate centre spot used by Revell but your eye knows when it's out as they look like googly eyes.

While I choose not to use the large decals what I did use from both had great coverage
21 June, 06:00
Guy Rump
Looking good. 👍
21 June, 08:26
Sy Bar
The Revell kit had a set of rockets which I thought would help with the inflight look. I choose to add my own pigtails again to add the inflight look.
There are no store for the Airfix only drop tanks which are moulded in clear plastic 🤔
Also note the Revell oob is a wheel down only kit, something I should have thought about before I choose my options hence the wheel door gaps (as kit)
25 June, 15:23
gorby
Very nice result!
27 June, 06:38
Dietmar Bogatzki
Whoooow looks like a 1/32 plane, Sy 👍
27 June, 06:41
Sy Bar
Thanks all for the kind words
27 June, 07:18
Łukasz Gliński
Great finish 👍 The rescribing of the old Revell really paid off 👍 Happy to see the markers were not so much troublesome 👍
27 June, 08:03
J35J
Great work and result! Congrats👍🏻
27 June, 08:50
Nicolas
Congrats, very good result. 👍
27 June, 18:02
Sy Bar
Well that was a fun double build, I e not do such a thing before. The chance to test a few things out gave mixed results, I'm please with the removal of the raise rivets of the older Revell kit and its re scribing made easier with the Airfix to use as a guide.. #Łukasz the use of the Posca markers gave very mixed results, as you warned I did get some areas of paint lift but could work out why as most areas were fine. However I didn't really like the results as they looked too ridged, might have its place. On a point of interest is see AK are releasing brand new markers, which are actual paints of their Real Colors range so they, I assume, will not have any such issue of lift or compatibility. Seams I was a little quick in my use of the Posca pens 🙄

Kit comparisons
I have no idea which kit is more accurate in terms of shape etc I don't get caught up on such rivet counting details, I just enjoy the build and as long as they look the part that's good enough for me.
I had no issues with the fit although the Revell is designed to be on wheels despite having a pilot, which means if you build it wheels up there are gaps in the wheel doors.
The Airfix has a great design for their wheel well doors which means achieving the right sort of angle on them is straightforward, they are also nicely detailed.

Cockpit; the Revell has no detail and the the pilot was deform in the mask area (easily fixed) while the newer Airfix has some detail but the at this scale the visibility into the pit is such they are both visually the same.

Decals; both are good and in register the newer Airfix gives a lot more but I choose not us the many stencils as at this scale they can me more of a pain to apply than their worth. A note was the fact the Airfix require a slightly stronger setting solution than I expected to fully settle, no issue with the Revell

So the venerable 42 year old Revell stand up well to the young 2 year old Airfix, if you are willing to take the time to remove raised detail and rescrub your own panel lines (but then we are modellers and not assemblers 😎)

Painting
I think I prefer to black base rather than use pens to shadow, however the AK markers could be worth looking at.
Painting the ID stripes, as these were applied in the factory I don't think either method has the upper hand but if I do a D-day plane with field applied invasion stripes I'd do them over an underlying camo as that allows you to carefully wear them via light sanding.

Wow that's a lot of waffle in summary it's been great to try things out and be able to compare side by side. On to the next one.
28 June, 19:17
Guy Rump
Great results and a good summary. 👍
28 June, 20:26

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Duo build of side by side old v new kits

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