Indonesian MiG-15 UTI
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32 29 May, 22:29
Ludvík Kružík
This really is a trip into history. I wish you well with your work on the model. And I'll be happy to follow the progress.
The drop tanks used on the Mig you are building are the original (older) version. They were attached directly to the wing (no hinge) and did not have stabilizing ailerons on the end. This type of tanks had one unpleasant feature. When dropping the empty tank, the tank rolled on the wing. This was annoying because it could damage the control surfaces. Therefore, these tanks were replaced by a new type with stabilizing surfaces at the end of the tank and these tanks were suspended on a wing hanger (tanks of this type are in the kit). This solution eliminated the rolling problem.
This really is a trip into history. I wish you well with your work on the model. And I'll be happy to follow the progress.
The drop tanks used on the Mig you are building are the original (older) version. They were attached directly to the wing (no hinge) and did not have stabilizing ailerons on the end. This type of tanks had one unpleasant feature. When dropping the empty tank, the tank rolled on the wing. This was annoying because it could damage the control surfaces. Therefore, these tanks were replaced by a new type with stabilizing surfaces at the end of the tank and these tanks were suspended on a wing hanger (tanks of this type are in the kit). This solution eliminated the rolling problem.
27 July, 09:16
Ben M
Ludvik, thank you for the details. I did not know that. I imagine they usually did not drop the tanks on trainers.
I also masked the canopy last night. The molding of the frames are a bit vague and lots of curves so it will require some cleanup after painting.
Ludvik, thank you for the details. I did not know that. I imagine they usually did not drop the tanks on trainers.
I also masked the canopy last night. The molding of the frames are a bit vague and lots of curves so it will require some cleanup after painting.
27 July, 12:12
Ludvík Kružík
Ben, you're right that trainer planes didn't usually drop tanks. In peacetime, in normal use, even combat aircraft don't drop tanks (except in emergency situations or exercises).
The purpose of my comment was merely to explain why the tanks on Indonesian aircraft differ from those in the kit.
I look forward to following your progress and wish you a lot of fun building the model and the result to your liking.
Ben, you're right that trainer planes didn't usually drop tanks. In peacetime, in normal use, even combat aircraft don't drop tanks (except in emergency situations or exercises).
The purpose of my comment was merely to explain why the tanks on Indonesian aircraft differ from those in the kit.
I look forward to following your progress and wish you a lot of fun building the model and the result to your liking.
27 July, 13:02
Ben M
Well the other night I got frustrated with the Vallejo gloss black primer clogging my airbrush, so I added some Mr leveling thinner and gave it the worst orange peel ever as this is totally incompatible with the paint. I thought I could selectively strip the paint with windex but while that kind of stripped the paint it also dissolved a lot of the perfect plastic putty and also dissolved the canopy pva glue and masking. Also I broke off a wing and a horizontal stabilizer. So a bit of a setback.
I have constant problems getting the Vallejo gloss black primer to not clog my 0.4mm nozzle.
Well the other night I got frustrated with the Vallejo gloss black primer clogging my airbrush, so I added some Mr leveling thinner and gave it the worst orange peel ever as this is totally incompatible with the paint. I thought I could selectively strip the paint with windex but while that kind of stripped the paint it also dissolved a lot of the perfect plastic putty and also dissolved the canopy pva glue and masking. Also I broke off a wing and a horizontal stabilizer. So a bit of a setback.
I have constant problems getting the Vallejo gloss black primer to not clog my 0.4mm nozzle.
18 August, 01:28
Duster_d
It's sad, Ben. These Vallejo primers can only be diluted with distilled water because they are based on acrylic urethane (this is my IMHO). Even Vallejo's Thinner and Flow Improver for acrylic paints does not go well with these primers. The same applies to their polyurethane varnishes.
It's sad, Ben. These Vallejo primers can only be diluted with distilled water because they are based on acrylic urethane (this is my IMHO). Even Vallejo's Thinner and Flow Improver for acrylic paints does not go well with these primers. The same applies to their polyurethane varnishes.
18 August, 06:35
Martin Oostrom
Not saying this will solve your issue, but they have a video with ratios out: Youtube Video
Not saying this will solve your issue, but they have a video with ratios out: Youtube Video
18 August, 06:50
Sy Bar
Wow that video seam to show it's a lot of hard work to get their primer coat working 👀
I'd go with mr surfacer 1500 approx 50:50 with mr levelling thinner, then if you need a gloss use mr Color gx110 again 50:50 with levelling thinner, sounds just as complex but I've never had this block airbrush and you can get rid of surface issue before you gloss saving the thicker gloss primer obscuring details..
Good luck on you build
Wow that video seam to show it's a lot of hard work to get their primer coat working 👀
I'd go with mr surfacer 1500 approx 50:50 with mr levelling thinner, then if you need a gloss use mr Color gx110 again 50:50 with levelling thinner, sounds just as complex but I've never had this block airbrush and you can get rid of surface issue before you gloss saving the thicker gloss primer obscuring details..
Good luck on you build
18 August, 07:54
Łukasz Gliński
Very sad nwes mate - hope to see you back on this project with the new kit, this one looks fubar unfortunately.
Very sad nwes mate - hope to see you back on this project with the new kit, this one looks fubar unfortunately.
18 August, 09:01
Ben M
Painted some detail parts. Unlike the Vallejo primer, the metallics shoot like a dream. Started reassembly. I will have to re-putty and this kit needs a lot of putty. The canopy is a goopy fogged mess, I'm going to soak it in degreaser to hopefully strip off the future and start over on it.
Painted some detail parts. Unlike the Vallejo primer, the metallics shoot like a dream. Started reassembly. I will have to re-putty and this kit needs a lot of putty. The canopy is a goopy fogged mess, I'm going to soak it in degreaser to hopefully strip off the future and start over on it.
18 August, 14:36
Ludvík Kružík
The accident on your project is really unpleasant. I wish you a steady hand and a lot of patience in dealing with the aftermath.
The accident on your project is really unpleasant. I wish you a steady hand and a lot of patience in dealing with the aftermath.
22 August, 12:27
M0rce
Wow, that looks like a tough kit...
Coming along nicely now though it seems.. 👍
Looking forward to updates.
Wow, that looks like a tough kit...
Coming along nicely now though it seems.. 👍
Looking forward to updates.
23 August, 22:18
Ben M
I finally broke the pitot tube off, amazing it stayed on this long with all the handling I had to do. The second time I did the puttying I didn't sand things as smooth, live and learn. This kit has a lot of challenging fit issues. I think I will decal next. Fairly happy with the canopy, it was a bear to mask. The gun blast panel and air brakes came out nice, slight contrast with the rest of the nmf.
I finally broke the pitot tube off, amazing it stayed on this long with all the handling I had to do. The second time I did the puttying I didn't sand things as smooth, live and learn. This kit has a lot of challenging fit issues. I think I will decal next. Fairly happy with the canopy, it was a bear to mask. The gun blast panel and air brakes came out nice, slight contrast with the rest of the nmf.
8 September, 18:32
Ludvík Kružík
Ben, I admire your patience and determination to finish the model.
Have you considered subtle colour differentiation of the individual panels? It'll brighten up the uniform silver surface of the aircraft nicely.
Ben, I admire your patience and determination to finish the model.
Have you considered subtle colour differentiation of the individual panels? It'll brighten up the uniform silver surface of the aircraft nicely.
14 September, 07:32
Ben M
There are a few panels painted a different color and some light weathering, but I'm keeping it subtle on this one as my photographic references don't show a lot of variation other than the gun blast panel and air brakes. I'll take some better pictures when it's done. I've done the full on panel painting before and I enjoy doing that!
There are a few panels painted a different color and some light weathering, but I'm keeping it subtle on this one as my photographic references don't show a lot of variation other than the gun blast panel and air brakes. I'll take some better pictures when it's done. I've done the full on panel painting before and I enjoy doing that!
14 September, 11:58
Ben M
OMG. I took it outside to photograph it and I dropped it. Reassembly commences.
OMG. I took it outside to photograph it and I dropped it. Reassembly commences.
14 September, 21:48
Ben M
OK, I put it back together, took pictures, and put it in the case before something else could happen to it! This was a rough but very enjoyable build, I got to build it three times.
OK, I put it back together, took pictures, and put it in the case before something else could happen to it! This was a rough but very enjoyable build, I got to build it three times.
15 September, 14:46
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30+ years ago, I started one of these, but got rid of it when I got rid of all my modeling stuff. I thought I'd see if I could finish it this time.