Sparviero shape-up
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112 15 July 2019, 22:14
Andy Ball
Grazie!, all. I've toned the camo down a touch today, with a wash. I'll do a little more onto "her" and try and finish the darn thing (it's taken 3 years on and off!). Your comments are motivational and very much appreciated.
Grazie!, all. I've toned the camo down a touch today, with a wash. I'll do a little more onto "her" and try and finish the darn thing (it's taken 3 years on and off!). Your comments are motivational and very much appreciated.
18 July 2019, 21:59
Andy Ball
The wait is nearly over.... I'll post finals in a day or two. Thanks for your encouragement- it's oiled the wheels!
The wait is nearly over.... I'll post finals in a day or two. Thanks for your encouragement- it's oiled the wheels!
1 August 2019, 22:15
Andy Ball
If the war had been decided on camouflage, then Mussolini would be enjoying Yorkshire puddings!
If the war had been decided on camouflage, then Mussolini would be enjoying Yorkshire puddings!
5 August 2019, 16:41
Andy Ball
Thanks Guy and David. I'm rather proud of the interior I did too,(Eduard), alas you can't see a bloody thing!, but I'm happy it's in there! It's a great kit- now I understand how to use this forum, I'll post as I build!
Thanks Guy and David. I'm rather proud of the interior I did too,(Eduard), alas you can't see a bloody thing!, but I'm happy it's in there! It's a great kit- now I understand how to use this forum, I'll post as I build!
7 August 2019, 22:28
Agustin Prellezo
Fantastic paint work. How did you paint the camo? Brush or airbrush? Masks or not?
Fantastic paint work. How did you paint the camo? Brush or airbrush? Masks or not?
8 August 2019, 20:33
Andy Ball
Hello Agustin, I airbrushed the base 'sandy' (an RLM: Vallejo) and then tried to mottle with airbrush, but I felt I had better control with, and resorted to, using a brush. There was a bit too much of a contrast afterwards which I then toned down with an airbrush coat of sand, much diluted. It's all a game of trial and error- and you learn every time! Many thanks for the compliment too.
Hello Agustin, I airbrushed the base 'sandy' (an RLM: Vallejo) and then tried to mottle with airbrush, but I felt I had better control with, and resorted to, using a brush. There was a bit too much of a contrast afterwards which I then toned down with an airbrush coat of sand, much diluted. It's all a game of trial and error- and you learn every time! Many thanks for the compliment too.
8 August 2019, 21:39
Igor Kondrashenkov
I have that one in my stash, trying to find a proper italian sand for my Sicilian camo. Yours looks really nice.
I have that one in my stash, trying to find a proper italian sand for my Sicilian camo. Yours looks really nice.
18 August 2019, 21:05
Andy Ball
Thank-you Igor!
I think I was inclined to use an RLM for my Italian sand, once washes etc. are put over it, the shades tend to change, but I guess you start with the as-near-correct colour first. If you come to build, drop me a note and I'll remember the +/- points of the build along the way for you.
Thank-you Igor!
I think I was inclined to use an RLM for my Italian sand, once washes etc. are put over it, the shades tend to change, but I guess you start with the as-near-correct colour first. If you come to build, drop me a note and I'll remember the +/- points of the build along the way for you.
19 August 2019, 11:45
Nikolaos Kouzinis
I have a same one Andy. It 's a good kit. I had problem with the fitting of cockpit glass. I putted 2 torpedoes but I know that it carried only one. I painted it with brush to have the control of camo shemes as you say too.
I have a same one Andy. It 's a good kit. I had problem with the fitting of cockpit glass. I putted 2 torpedoes but I know that it carried only one. I painted it with brush to have the control of camo shemes as you say too.
17 September 2019, 22:05
Andy Ball
@Nikolaos: seen yours, lovely!! I had the same issues with the main canopy, (as hinted at here in the photos). References suggest that the undersides were aluminium and a "hellblau-like-colour". When in Rhodes, I am lead to believe it had come back from S.M.'s servicing and had a repaint, hence I spared it too much weathering.
@Nikolaos: seen yours, lovely!! I had the same issues with the main canopy, (as hinted at here in the photos). References suggest that the undersides were aluminium and a "hellblau-like-colour". When in Rhodes, I am lead to believe it had come back from S.M.'s servicing and had a repaint, hence I spared it too much weathering.
17 September 2019, 22:24
Nikolaos Kouzinis
Yes you have right for the colour. I choose the light ghost grey(gloss) because the Airfix guide has that colour and it was very easy to paint it with the brush, only one time I must change the tyres colour with rubber acrylic because they are very gloss. And of course I must make wash and smoke . I didn't dare it because I destroyed a SU-15 washing it and made a destroyed Ukranian SU-15 diorama.
Yes you have right for the colour. I choose the light ghost grey(gloss) because the Airfix guide has that colour and it was very easy to paint it with the brush, only one time I must change the tyres colour with rubber acrylic because they are very gloss. And of course I must make wash and smoke . I didn't dare it because I destroyed a SU-15 washing it and made a destroyed Ukranian SU-15 diorama.
17 September 2019, 22:44
Treehugger
I think maybe with a solid layer of say Vallejo primer paint, hand painting the camo on such a subject might look ok, then I have the impression that the colors sort of is being soaked up into the existing layer of primer, making it less of a mess, as opposed to adding paint on top of smooth plastic.
I think maybe with a solid layer of say Vallejo primer paint, hand painting the camo on such a subject might look ok, then I have the impression that the colors sort of is being soaked up into the existing layer of primer, making it less of a mess, as opposed to adding paint on top of smooth plastic.
29 September 2022, 12:39
Andy Ball
Thanks Neuling, Alberto and Oleg. This one's gone up the feed for sure, it was finished a few years back. Techniques in my studio have changed a bit, and I have a better airbrush and technique now!
Thanks Neuling, Alberto and Oleg. This one's gone up the feed for sure, it was finished a few years back. Techniques in my studio have changed a bit, and I have a better airbrush and technique now!
29 September 2022, 15:06
Andy Ball
Top tip Treehugger. I need to try Mr Surfacer and other ways to blend colours and even tones out, thanks for the look.
Top tip Treehugger. I need to try Mr Surfacer and other ways to blend colours and even tones out, thanks for the look.
29 September 2022, 15:07
Andy Ball
Thanks David, Vincent and Villiers, the mottled work was with a brush, and surprisingly easier as I recall than using an airbrush- it's a little harsh around the edges, but I'll live and learn!
Thanks David, Vincent and Villiers, the mottled work was with a brush, and surprisingly easier as I recall than using an airbrush- it's a little harsh around the edges, but I'll live and learn!
29 September 2022, 21:15
Johne 69
Well done Mate 👍
How was the fiting of the parts from Quick boost and the Italeri kit ?
Well done Mate 👍
How was the fiting of the parts from Quick boost and the Italeri kit ?
30 September 2022, 08:00
Andy Ball
Thanks Johne 69- Eduard PE was ok in most areas, the matrix on the upper deck behind the rear facing gun was tricky, as was the gondola interior. I didn't use some of it around the undercarriage and rear door. As I remember there is a lot of PE for this kit- so fold away!
Thanks Johne 69- Eduard PE was ok in most areas, the matrix on the upper deck behind the rear facing gun was tricky, as was the gondola interior. I didn't use some of it around the undercarriage and rear door. As I remember there is a lot of PE for this kit- so fold away!
30 September 2022, 22:40
Andy Ball
Thanks Jan, it is a lovely scheme, I think the best one in the box. I see the attraction for modellers to do Italian WWII subjects
Thanks Jan, it is a lovely scheme, I think the best one in the box. I see the attraction for modellers to do Italian WWII subjects
1 October 2022, 13:20
Moreno Baruffini
Really a great build! ,👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
..And looking at the interest that is growing up, it's time to finish my two Sparvieri🙂
Really a great build! ,👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
..And looking at the interest that is growing up, it's time to finish my two Sparvieri🙂
1 October 2022, 15:36
Andy Ball
Edward!, your superlatives are much appreciated- I wish my wife was as hot etc.etc….(only kidding). I'm sure you could up the heat from red to white!!
Edward!, your superlatives are much appreciated- I wish my wife was as hot etc.etc….(only kidding). I'm sure you could up the heat from red to white!!
1 October 2022, 16:31
Andy Ball
Moreno, surely as an Italian patriot you'd want to do justice to them? Replete with exquisite camo? I drive a Giulia QV, so know the flair of the Alfa!
Moreno, surely as an Italian patriot you'd want to do justice to them? Replete with exquisite camo? I drive a Giulia QV, so know the flair of the Alfa!
1 October 2022, 16:33
Moreno Baruffini
Ahah you are right, also if prefer Lancia and I dream about a united Europe! 🙂
Super choice the Giulia, indeed! 👌🏻👏🏻👍🏻
Ahah you are right, also if prefer Lancia and I dream about a united Europe! 🙂
Super choice the Giulia, indeed! 👌🏻👏🏻👍🏻
1 October 2022, 17:24
Andy Ball
Hey Moreno- I love Lancia too !!! My poster car in the 1970s was the Stratos- and I saw one in a Rallye in 1978. But realistically I like Fulvias or 1750 GTVs!!
Hey Moreno- I love Lancia too !!! My poster car in the 1970s was the Stratos- and I saw one in a Rallye in 1978. But realistically I like Fulvias or 1750 GTVs!!
1 October 2022, 18:30
Marius
Great job Andy! I was about to ask how you managed to do those camouflage spots, but found your old comment (above) at a later point. I only used that technique once and it was a bit risky, but with decent results in the end (not as good as yours). Congrats on a wonderful model!
Great job Andy! I was about to ask how you managed to do those camouflage spots, but found your old comment (above) at a later point. I only used that technique once and it was a bit risky, but with decent results in the end (not as good as yours). Congrats on a wonderful model!
1 October 2022, 20:42
Edward MacKenzie
Hehehe... i understand Andy 😉 well, i am really impressed by your fantastic job! As a brushpainter i fear i never will reach a result like yours! Go on that way mate 😄
Hehehe... i understand Andy 😉 well, i am really impressed by your fantastic job! As a brushpainter i fear i never will reach a result like yours! Go on that way mate 😄
1 October 2022, 20:50
Andy Ball
Thanks Marius- a little mist of brown sprayed over it helped to soften the mottles IMHO. It's all trial and error and if it looks OK to you, then it is OK
Thanks Marius- a little mist of brown sprayed over it helped to soften the mottles IMHO. It's all trial and error and if it looks OK to you, then it is OK
2 October 2022, 08:17
Neil Patrick
Congrats on a lovely job Andy. Such an attractive but challenging subject. I have one of these on the shelf too. It comes out from time to time, then I think about executing that camo, and I chicken out to do something easier. Spectacular result!
Congrats on a lovely job Andy. Such an attractive but challenging subject. I have one of these on the shelf too. It comes out from time to time, then I think about executing that camo, and I chicken out to do something easier. Spectacular result!
2 October 2022, 08:49
Andy Ball
Thanks Neil, it is a good kit- everyone who builds it knows there is a fit issue with the cockpit transparency and the cowlings aren't right (hence a/m). It does test your brush skills, but paint -thin and often -can replicate something near to airbrushing
Thanks Neil, it is a good kit- everyone who builds it knows there is a fit issue with the cockpit transparency and the cowlings aren't right (hence a/m). It does test your brush skills, but paint -thin and often -can replicate something near to airbrushing
2 October 2022, 09:03
Neil Patrick
I have an idea for these Italian schemes. I've not tried it, but I'm thinking that an acrylic base coat then freehand oil paint camo colours on top could be feathered round the edges. One of these days, I'll do some experiments!
I have an idea for these Italian schemes. I've not tried it, but I'm thinking that an acrylic base coat then freehand oil paint camo colours on top could be feathered round the edges. One of these days, I'll do some experiments!
2 October 2022, 09:16
Neil Patrick
Haha Andy. Or a disaster.. who knows? We'll have to find out! I think oils can be airbrushed too, so a hard stencil would give precise definition and smooth surface first, then gently blend with a thinner dampened cotton bud. All sounds good in theory, but...
Haha Andy. Or a disaster.. who knows? We'll have to find out! I think oils can be airbrushed too, so a hard stencil would give precise definition and smooth surface first, then gently blend with a thinner dampened cotton bud. All sounds good in theory, but...
2 October 2022, 11:32
Andy Ball
Thanks Finn!
Neil: I guess it'll be after the 9 o'clock watershed then?!
Thanks Finn!
Neil: I guess it'll be after the 9 o'clock watershed then?!
3 October 2022, 14:25
David Taylor
You've done your homework Andy ,two for transport one for operations.
You've done your homework Andy ,two for transport one for operations.
3 October 2022, 14:33
Andy Ball
Thanks Cuajete, it's a great kit. Give it a go sometime- in Spanish Civil War guise?
Thanks Cuajete, it's a great kit. Give it a go sometime- in Spanish Civil War guise?
3 October 2022, 18:01
Cuajete
Indeed, Andy. I have the same box in my stash and I plan to do it as you say, but when I see myself capable to do this kind of mottled schemes 👍
Indeed, Andy. I have the same box in my stash and I plan to do it as you say, but when I see myself capable to do this kind of mottled schemes 👍
4 October 2022, 17:24
Tini Hendriks
My evertime hero, the Savoia Marchetti. I build the Airfix one. Great job
!
My evertime hero, the Savoia Marchetti. I build the Airfix one. Great job
!
4 October 2022, 22:30
Andy Ball
Respect Tini! The Airfix one is quite a challenge and it's box art is quite the challenge too
Respect Tini! The Airfix one is quite a challenge and it's box art is quite the challenge too
5 October 2022, 05:59
Andy Ball
Thanks Guillaume and James C, this is one of my older projects that was "of its time" - that said I'm happy with your respective comments, 😀
Thanks Guillaume and James C, this is one of my older projects that was "of its time" - that said I'm happy with your respective comments, 😀
13 October 2022, 18:11
Erik Leijdens
Fantastic work Andy! The camouflage is amazing. Beautiful aircraft too
Fantastic work Andy! The camouflage is amazing. Beautiful aircraft too
14 October 2022, 05:42
Andy Ball
Erik, I always liked the subject and aircraft since I saw the Airfix one on a model shop shelf in 1972….finally I get to build one. It may not be the last!….thanks for your comments too!
Erik, I always liked the subject and aircraft since I saw the Airfix one on a model shop shelf in 1972….finally I get to build one. It may not be the last!….thanks for your comments too!
14 October 2022, 06:54
Lex Jassies
Beautiful execution of a beautiful plan. And that camouflage 👍........ Concrats!
Beautiful execution of a beautiful plan. And that camouflage 👍........ Concrats!
16 October 2022, 09:37
Lex Jassies
The hobby has been on the back burner for much of this year. But with the fall of autumn I want to pick up the thread again. Thanks for asking 🙂
The hobby has been on the back burner for much of this year. But with the fall of autumn I want to pick up the thread again. Thanks for asking 🙂
17 October 2022, 09:32
Łukasz Gliński
For all interested in following the Author - the kit started to reappear lately in shops 😮
Considering fetching a copy too 😛
For all interested in following the Author - the kit started to reappear lately in shops 😮
Considering fetching a copy too 😛
28 December 2022, 08:13
Moreno Baruffini
I don't understand Lukasz: the italeri sparviero is probably the most known kit from the producer and, almost in Italy, there are lots of copies around😉
I don't understand Lukasz: the italeri sparviero is probably the most known kit from the producer and, almost in Italy, there are lots of copies around😉
28 December 2022, 08:58
Łukasz Gliński
I have to visit Italy then, here they were absent for some time 😄
I have to visit Italy then, here they were absent for some time 😄
28 December 2022, 10:06
Cuajete
I wonder if this box will still be available in Italy as well:
SM.79 I Serie (Italeri 1261, 1:72)
However, I wonder if Italeri intends to release the new Sparviero's box that it announced a few years ago soon:
S.79 Sparviero (Italeri 1412, 1:72)
I wonder if this box will still be available in Italy as well:
SM.79 I Serie (Italeri 1261, 1:72)
However, I wonder if Italeri intends to release the new Sparviero's box that it announced a few years ago soon:
S.79 Sparviero (Italeri 1412, 1:72)
28 December 2022, 19:29
Moreno Baruffini
Ciao, Cuajete, the version above is now very rare also in Italy. I found mine on eBay Italy after a long search.
The second, if I remember well, was effectively released a limited edition. As before, I think that sometimes it pops out...
Ciao, Cuajete, the version above is now very rare also in Italy. I found mine on eBay Italy after a long search.
The second, if I remember well, was effectively released a limited edition. As before, I think that sometimes it pops out...
28 December 2022, 19:51
Album info
That's why I drive an Alfa-Romeo.