MiG-21R (L-14i), 352.iae JRV
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77 13 August 2022, 21:23
Ludvík Kružík
Building the MiG-21R is also in my plans. I'll be happy to draw inspiration for the build here 🙂
Building the MiG-21R is also in my plans. I'll be happy to draw inspiration for the build here 🙂
18 August 2022, 08:47
Sergej I
Thank you all for the interest, the pressure of renowned modellers watching over my shoulder is now present 🙂
Thank you all for the interest, the pressure of renowned modellers watching over my shoulder is now present 🙂
18 August 2022, 09:25
Ludvík Kružík
I'm not sure if I'm entitled to the title of renowned. But I'd sure like to take a look at your build and get some inspiration. 😎
I'm not sure if I'm entitled to the title of renowned. But I'd sure like to take a look at your build and get some inspiration. 😎
18 August 2022, 09:31
tyu
Very interesting choice of markings, tempted to change my currently planned Cuban MiG-21R build to something similar. I admire people who detail stuff that normally can't be seen unless a mirror is in place like your gear wells. Question: your reference of the gear wells is of a similar Yugoslav aircraft like the one you are building or is it just a generic picture? I know some were anodized aluminium, some were painted. It just depends what you are building, I would be interested in knowing what is what and what is correct for a Yugoslav Fishbed.
Very interesting choice of markings, tempted to change my currently planned Cuban MiG-21R build to something similar. I admire people who detail stuff that normally can't be seen unless a mirror is in place like your gear wells. Question: your reference of the gear wells is of a similar Yugoslav aircraft like the one you are building or is it just a generic picture? I know some were anodized aluminium, some were painted. It just depends what you are building, I would be interested in knowing what is what and what is correct for a Yugoslav Fishbed.
18 August 2022, 15:28
Sergej I
Thank you tyu. To me modelling is a form of meditation.
The references from the book are from czech MF version, which was different mainly in engine and radar, wheels and mechanisms were same or similar.
Regarding paint, by 1991, all MiGs would have been repainted at least once since the 60's. The paintjob I am after is added to reference photos #9 an #10, which are 1992 dated photos of the 104.
Yugo MiGs did have some other differences, I will point them out as I build. In example, silver tip of the radar-cone - not red, and antenna surfaces were more OD, not so bright green green, but also visible from photos. Unfortunately I do not have my own walkaround photos.
Thank you tyu. To me modelling is a form of meditation.
The references from the book are from czech MF version, which was different mainly in engine and radar, wheels and mechanisms were same or similar.
Regarding paint, by 1991, all MiGs would have been repainted at least once since the 60's. The paintjob I am after is added to reference photos #9 an #10, which are 1992 dated photos of the 104.
Yugo MiGs did have some other differences, I will point them out as I build. In example, silver tip of the radar-cone - not red, and antenna surfaces were more OD, not so bright green green, but also visible from photos. Unfortunately I do not have my own walkaround photos.
18 August 2022, 17:41
tyu
So according to your answer Sergej I: it seems that as far as wheel whells go, generic it is. I'll stick to my Cuban Mig-21R, and will do my own detailing.
So according to your answer Sergej I: it seems that as far as wheel whells go, generic it is. I'll stick to my Cuban Mig-21R, and will do my own detailing.
18 August 2022, 18:18
Sergej I
Yes tyu, it is so. For me 95% is good enough. Looking forward to follow and support your cuban build, no doubt it will be excellent 👍
Yes tyu, it is so. For me 95% is good enough. Looking forward to follow and support your cuban build, no doubt it will be excellent 👍
18 August 2022, 22:00
Sergej I
Thanks Guy Rump, need to wrap this one up, two more 48ers waiting on the shelf of doom 😮
Thanks Guy Rump, need to wrap this one up, two more 48ers waiting on the shelf of doom 😮
22 October 2023, 18:49
John
Good to know about the decals technique. So you do not use any kind of setting solution at all, or just micro set but not the micro sol?
Good to know about the decals technique. So you do not use any kind of setting solution at all, or just micro set but not the micro sol?
22 October 2023, 19:46
Sergej I
John, that is correct. I only use the Micro Set (blue one), because I imagine it sucks the paint better to the model. Also pure water is sufficient otherwise, just the surface tension makes the decals float a bit more 🙂
And I would never goo them with turp (ref. Modeling Weekly), that goo is nasty then and much more work in the end. The only limit is to stay roughly within the time frame of 20-48h, then the foil peels off smoothly.
The more setting solution I'd use, the harder it would be for the foil to peel off.
I just gently drag the tweezers edge along the surface until I hit the edge of the decal film, when I have something to grab I just grab and sloowly peel off. HAven't damaged the surface yet, but I do it on a gloss and lacquered surface of course. Matt would show drag marks.
John, that is correct. I only use the Micro Set (blue one), because I imagine it sucks the paint better to the model. Also pure water is sufficient otherwise, just the surface tension makes the decals float a bit more 🙂
And I would never goo them with turp (ref. Modeling Weekly), that goo is nasty then and much more work in the end. The only limit is to stay roughly within the time frame of 20-48h, then the foil peels off smoothly.
The more setting solution I'd use, the harder it would be for the foil to peel off.
I just gently drag the tweezers edge along the surface until I hit the edge of the decal film, when I have something to grab I just grab and sloowly peel off. HAven't damaged the surface yet, but I do it on a gloss and lacquered surface of course. Matt would show drag marks.
23 October 2023, 05:40
John
👍
Thank you, Sergej. I have some newer Eduard in the stash that I have been hesitant to start because of the decals and this instruction will be very helpful.
👍
Thank you, Sergej. I have some newer Eduard in the stash that I have been hesitant to start because of the decals and this instruction will be very helpful.
23 October 2023, 10:48
Sergej I
Eduard supply an abundance of decals. Train on the ones you won't need.
Eduard supply an abundance of decals. Train on the ones you won't need.
23 October 2023, 10:50
John
Ended up amazing Segej! Can you describe the drag chute building? I looked but did not see how you did it. A very nice detail!
Ended up amazing Segej! Can you describe the drag chute building? I looked but did not see how you did it. A very nice detail!
12 November 2023, 03:17
Sergej I
Thankyou, Guy Rump and John.
John, the drag chute is pretty straight forward resin part from QB: MiG-21MF Fishbed - Parachute (Quickboost QB 48 711, 1:48)
Nicely detailed, colours (green protective material in light-gray webbing taken from one of the MiG books.
The rest is sawing off original part, CA gluing the resin and hand-painting.
It did break off two times to mishandling later on 🙂 and needed to be repaired 😄
Thankyou, Guy Rump and John.
John, the drag chute is pretty straight forward resin part from QB: MiG-21MF Fishbed - Parachute (Quickboost QB 48 711, 1:48)
Nicely detailed, colours (green protective material in light-gray webbing taken from one of the MiG books.
The rest is sawing off original part, CA gluing the resin and hand-painting.
It did break off two times to mishandling later on 🙂 and needed to be repaired 😄
12 November 2023, 07:01
Sergej I
Thank you Spanjaard, ForestFan and Neuling, your feedback means a lot 👍
Thank you Spanjaard, ForestFan and Neuling, your feedback means a lot 👍
12 November 2023, 09:26
John
Sergej, thank you! I didn't see it on the project page. Would make an interesting part of a dio. The 4+ MiG-21 book has a good photo of the reloading in progress. I think if you don't break a resin piece at least once on a build (twice is better) it is bad luck!
Sergej, thank you! I didn't see it on the project page. Would make an interesting part of a dio. The 4+ MiG-21 book has a good photo of the reloading in progress. I think if you don't break a resin piece at least once on a build (twice is better) it is bad luck!
13 November 2023, 00:11
Rafał Kurowski
This is brilliant. I'm going to start this model now, and I was looking for inspiration, and paint suggestions. I saw many real MIGs 21 and none of them had the mettalic shine that some modellers put on. The paint was always matt and looked wearout. Yuor model Sir is an excellent representation of what I saw in real life.
Congrats, and thank you for sharing.
This is brilliant. I'm going to start this model now, and I was looking for inspiration, and paint suggestions. I saw many real MIGs 21 and none of them had the mettalic shine that some modellers put on. The paint was always matt and looked wearout. Yuor model Sir is an excellent representation of what I saw in real life.
Congrats, and thank you for sharing.
19 November 2023, 13:46
Sergej I
Thank you Rafal. A short feedback to the "shine"... the model was already disregarded in the first round at this year's slovenian nationals as being totally too less shiny 🙂
At Yugoslav Zavodi Zmaj during the maintenance, the planes were coated with a special silver lack and then double varnished which gave them a special shiny look.
So this MiG needs to undergo another session or two with the GX100 I am afraid 🙁
Thank you Rafal. A short feedback to the "shine"... the model was already disregarded in the first round at this year's slovenian nationals as being totally too less shiny 🙂
At Yugoslav Zavodi Zmaj during the maintenance, the planes were coated with a special silver lack and then double varnished which gave them a special shiny look.
So this MiG needs to undergo another session or two with the GX100 I am afraid 🙁
19 November 2023, 15:15
Album info
A MiG which participated in reconnaissance missions over Slovenia during the 11-day war of independence in June 1991.
MiG-21R, Izdelye94R (Fishbed-H), serial number 26104
Imported in June 1969 by JRV (Jugoslavensko Ratno Vazduhoplovstvo), assigned to 352. iae (izviđačka aviacijska eskadrilja)
Participated in June and July 1991 as aggressor plane during Slovenian war of independence.
Presented with a daytime recon container type D and two 490 L underwing fuel tanks.