el Condor pasa

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September 2, 2022
A little work on the cockpit and interior today.
RLM66 for the main cockpit and exposed areas, and RLM02 for just about everything else internally. It’s an academic exercise as very little will be seen once closed
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September 2, 2022
Instrument panel- comes with a decal, but it’s pretty useless, so have picked out details and highlighted accordingly. Most won’t be seen once the halves are together
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September 2, 2022
Wireless operator area. Picked out some highlights, Trumpy says RLM02 for the walls on here- not so sure, may have been ‘66. But life is incredibly short, so it will remain as is
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September 3, 2022
One of the alternative uses for Macon Lugny 2020!….seat belts with a bit of Rosie Riveter for the details
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September 3, 2022
Very happy with the instrument panel and pilot's office. Don't use the decal, it's useless.
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September 3, 2022
Here's a few hours on, we're all complete on the interior. Shame only the cockpit will be seen through the transparencies. There's no option to open up the door, (although it could be done with scratch building separately). All pieces went in well. Shame about those little seats in the cabin- woefully under scaled.
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September 3, 2022
Ready for a little oil wash, then close- tomorrow's work.
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September 5, 2022
Some oils added around the fuel tanks to bring out depth
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September 5, 2022
All internals now ready, pretty much 100% out the box at this stage
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September 5, 2022
I guess if you opened the door, you’d see more of this. Alas, not on my build, so ‘bye-bye’….
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September 5, 2022
I did decide that the pre-war Condors would have had orange-brown curtains for their passengers and these would be handy for the crew. So a little scratch build….
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September 5, 2022
I knew there were quite a few ejector pin marks, I ground some down and filled some. I think I prefer to grind down and then etch with liquid poly
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September 6, 2022
The two halves came together well. I used a mixture of Rocket Hot and Tamiya thin to align and cure. A little filler was required to smooth out a lip on the underside that was caused by my technique probably. Otherwise the tolerances on this model are up there with the best.
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September 6, 2022
Dimensionally similar to the 1/24th Spitfire, and won’t fit in the Detolf cabinet either.
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September 10, 2022
Quite a bit done today, all transparencies masked and they fit beautifully into and onto fuselage. Guns inserted into turret/s. Gondola completed. Undercarriage painted and detailed. Finally, all RLM65’d areas….,well RLM65’d!! Waiting on RLM72/73 for maritime uppers, as didn’t want to use 70/71!
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September 13, 2022
When you look at the front of this plane, it seems 30 years ahead of its time. Sleek. No wonder they flew one from Berlin to NYC in 25 hours non-stop.
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September 13, 2022
The torpedos supplied are fanciful additions. I have repurposed a set of the 500kg bombs supplied and added a set of 250kg bombs to accompany. Not sure if entirely accurate, but better than the torpedos.
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September 13, 2022
The undercarriage is nicely detailed, fussy to assemble. I have weathered the fabric covers and dirtied the tyres.
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September 13, 2022
From the info-graphic
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September 13, 2022
The kit does not supply the Lofte 7D- or any- bomb sight. So scratch building it is then.
Plus, I added the fuel dump pipe at the rear of the gondola using a metal needle to reduce its chances of breaking off
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September 16, 2022
Finally! After ordering on 2nd September….our Royal Mail seems to be on another ‘go slow’
F8+BB will be the ‘C3 depicted with green spinners
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September 17, 2022
The radio aerial would appear to be in a couple of places even within the C3 series. According to Xtradecal this needs relocating forwards from its position. So Milliput out, and a bit of drilling later. Check references, I guess.
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September 17, 2022
I didn’t have/or want to buy RLM25. Humbrol’s Middle Green 101 and some drops of white got me near enough to the colour of the “B” on the radio codes, which is replicated on the spinner tips. Others have suggest Deck Green plus white, but to my eyes that is nowhere near the brighter green the decals suggest.
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September 21, 2022
Uppers. Glad I did go pure with RLM72/RLM73. Compared to RLM70/RLM71 these greens (grün) do look different, far less contrast than I thought. Naturally there are still some areas to touch up. The wing to fuselage fit is pretty good, just a slight need to get the dihedral right.
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September 21, 2022
Unders. Will need to blend wings and fuselage. Not going for a big weathered look, which is harder to do I think.
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September 21, 2022
The colour scheme on Xtradecal showed 2 schemes for the same plane depending on whether you look at it from the top or the side. There was no continuity from wings and top to sides. So I have had to interpret as best I could.
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September 21, 2022
A little remedial action will be required for the paint that has lifted.
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September 21, 2022
Those lines…..modern even for 1930’s technology
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September 23, 2022
Gondola fixed. I sprayed RLM02 inside and on the underside of the fuselage, but left the internal glazed areas as RLM66. Adding a fuel dumping tube and widening slightly the forward MG hole to allow the MG’s material coupling to show. The gondola to transparencies’ fit was a little off, but I’ll live with it.
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September 27, 2022
Not too many decals- I don’t know if Luftwaffe machines had many stencils?- glad they didn’t!
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September 27, 2022
Coated with Pledge multi-surface polish prior to decal application.
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September 27, 2022
Just going to add some exhaust smokes and a little streaking to this.
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September 29, 2022
We’re on short finals into Bordeaux, the masks are off, the transparencies really clear. Just some work around ordinance and the aerial and wire.
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September 29, 2022
Keeping the weathering to ‘light’ as I want to portray it as a new arrival!
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September 29, 2022
It’s impressive in its size and has a real grace I didn’t appreciate until I built it
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October 3, 2022
Landed, Merignac 1941.
Overall an easy build, some details are woefully inaccurate, but with a good set of decals and some bombs redundant from the sprues, we can build a 'C3 that would probably have looked like this (before it broke its back on a landing).
Thanks for your likes and comments.
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April 9, 2023
Warheads for foreheads
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April 9, 2023
Loaded….

Comments

82 2 September 2022, 17:09

Guy Rump
Ooohhh, definitely watching this one for ideas. 👍

2 September 2022, 17:50

Andy Ball
Well Guy, there are undersized seats and oversized MGs (well it looks that way to me!). So far a well fitting kit. Thanks for the visit!

2 September 2022, 17:55

Guy Rump
Might be an idea to have a look in your spares box or after market...🙂

2 September 2022, 18:05

Andy Ball
Might do for MGs, and will add belts to seats (none provided) but most won't be seen….Law of Diminishing Returns
Plus, the Chinese guy doing the colour call-outs decided to knock off for the day and we don't know the colours for the internal flaps, undercarriage etc. I'll take an educated guess though. Oh, and the markings are for an executive transport- not an Atlantic hunter

2 September 2022, 18:07

Robert Podkoński
Following, for sure! 😉

2 September 2022, 18:53

Cuajete
Oh...! I always wanted to know if this one is better than Revell's one.
Nice start, Andy! 👍

2 September 2022, 18:54

Andy Ball
Thanks again Robert and Cuajete! You're both regular wingmen on these missions!!….
Cuajete, I'm led to believe the Trumpy is better than Rev, and doesn't Revel cater for the later versions?

2 September 2022, 21:56

Skyhiker
Taking a seat

3 September 2022, 01:58

Neil Patrick
Great choice Andy. Like Cuajete, I'll be interested to see how this kit compares to the Revell. I don't possess either , but if I ever consider getting one, your experience will swing it one way or the other!

3 September 2022, 08:23

Andy Ball
Thanks Skywalker, I'll try to entertain!

3 September 2022, 13:02

David Januska
Oh very nice project, it is a monster plane. Looki g forward for the result. So far it looks perfect. Great job

3 September 2022, 17:04

Cuajete
Those interiors looks great, Andy 👍

4 September 2022, 18:03

David Taylor
The old revell did not have any real detail in the internals.Nice Andy.Are you working through your stash.

5 September 2022, 15:56

Andy Ball
Thank-you David, pretty big I must admit! So far no
Issues with fit- just those attention to details we modellers crave-Trumpeter up your game!

10 September 2022, 21:37

Andy Ball
Thanks Cuajete, having seen the 48th version of this, I see it is quite the scaled down version, and with no discernible way of peering into the fuselage, it's all for nothing…

10 September 2022, 21:39

Andy Ball
Indeed David, making a dent …
But ordered 3 more into stash last week. Fool!

10 September 2022, 21:40

Andy Ball
Hi Neil. Can't comment on Revell, obviously, but so far the fit and simplicity of build and parts is fabulous. It's just the decals/torpedos/colour call-outs that are not to standard

10 September 2022, 21:43

Andy Ball
Awaiting the Xtradecal 72.262 sheet and the Vallejo RLMs for the uppers. Will recommence build early next week….

10 September 2022, 21:46

Guy Rump
Looking good Andy 👍

10 September 2022, 21:59

Neil Patrick
Looks like you're building fast as ever Andy. Very impressed you have ordered RLM72/73 rather than just use 70/71. Even on my RLM colour charts they are very similar, so it will be interesting to compare them although I suspect it will be difficult to see on a photo. And of course the colour charts never match each other anyway!

10 September 2022, 23:04

Rui S
I'm in 😎

10 September 2022, 23:07

Andy Ball
@Neil: regarding RLMs, I have the 70/71, but a worm in the brain said to try the correct ones- I bet you're right though, hardly any difference. Trumpeter call outs are 70/71, but many inaccurate colour labelling on this kit. I'm no forensic modeller, honest!, but if I know for certain then I'll correct it or adopt it!

11 September 2022, 09:08

Andy Ball
@Rui S, come join the flight of the Condor- we're over the Bay of Biscay presently!!

11 September 2022, 09:09

David Taylor
Watch out for Hurricats.LOL.

11 September 2022, 09:10

Andy Ball
@David: just you put that kit away right now!! We don't want any trouble!!

11 September 2022, 09:12

David Taylor
Single use only unless close to land LOL.

11 September 2022, 16:09

Bas Tonn
Amazing piece of history, launching beaten-up Hurricanes as single-use defences against the Conder. Allthough not unsuccesfull...

11 September 2022, 16:59

Cuajete
Good progress, Andy 👍

11 September 2022, 18:27

Andy Ball
Indeed David, the FAAs very own kamikaze division

12 September 2022, 18:28

Andy Ball
True @Bas, thanks for the note! Looking at the kit, the area around the cockpit and nose seem ahead of their time in terms of 'form', almost modern!

12 September 2022, 18:30

Andy Ball
Thanks Cuajete- got the paints today, so tooling up for some upper side RLM'ing

12 September 2022, 18:30

Rui
Watching 👀

12 September 2022, 18:34

Andy Ball
Cheers Rui, I'll hope to do it some justice!

12 September 2022, 21:32

Michael Kohl
A beautiful plane. One has been recently restored from a heap of scrap metal: fw200-restaurierung-../2021/06/17/summary/
Watching your progress with interest.

12 September 2022, 22:51

Andy Ball
For sure Michael-I was aware of the Condorians, but not of their huge efforts of a near-total rebuild without plans. It is a fitting testament to theirs and FW's original designs that it is on display!

13 September 2022, 06:29

Cuajete
Good progress, Andy 👍

16 September 2022, 18:10

Juergen Klinglhuber
Stepping nicely forward! Great!

16 September 2022, 20:33

Andy Ball
Thanks Cuajete and Juergen. Thanks for the nudge onwards!!
I hope to commence the upper sides over the weekend - i have also noticed that the aerial will need a small relocation according to the version depicted - further details in the build later…

16 September 2022, 22:11

Andy Ball
@Neil Patrick: having compared Vallejo's RLM 70/71/72/73 combo's- I am satisfied that there's a difference- the maritime greens are almost indistinguishable- the 70/71 have more contrast. IMHO…

21 September 2022, 20:06

Spanjaard
looking very nice

21 September 2022, 20:10

Thomas Bischoff
Failed to sign in on time - will you pick me up with your next stopover?

21 September 2022, 20:18

Andy Ball
¡Gracias! Spanjaard. I love the bit where you colour it in….

21 September 2022, 20:46

Andy Ball
Thomas, I've reserved the W/O seat, just behind the pilot in front of the bulkhead- yours to enjoy and explore. Thank-you.

21 September 2022, 20:48

Neil Patrick
Nice to se the 72/73 on now Andy. I'm sure I cannot see a true representation of the hues here, but what I can see looks very good!

22 September 2022, 11:39

Cuajete
I agree with Neil 👍

22 September 2022, 17:42

Andy Ball
Cheers Matthias! Appreciate you looking it over!

22 September 2022, 21:03

Andy Ball
Thanks Neil, the hues are subtle and 'drab' (which is what I am sure is intended)….on a separate note: Sir Edward and Lady Helen Nall were impressed with the work of you and Knocker….we're off to the International Bomber Command Centre in Lincoln to dig out some more research into local crashes…

22 September 2022, 21:07

Andy Ball
And thanks. Again. @Cuajete - on both accounts!!

22 September 2022, 21:08

Rui
Sure is coming to gather nicely 😁

23 September 2022, 03:27

Guy Rump
Looking good and lots of tips for when I get around to doing mine. 👍

23 September 2022, 10:14

Neil Patrick
Have a good research trip Andy. Knocker and I will be keen to hear what you find out. Hopefully we can discuss at Telford.

23 September 2022, 10:44

Andy Ball
Thanks Dimitri for checking us out!

23 September 2022, 12:38

Andy Ball
Cheers Rui, it's nudging along….

23 September 2022, 12:39

Andy Ball
Hi Guy, I've added some more comments and hope anyone who's interested in build this will have some 'prior'…

23 September 2022, 12:39

Andy Ball
Cheers Neil, thinking ahead- do you have a preference for the day at Telford?

23 September 2022, 12:40

Andy Ball
Appreciate, again, squidward89 the view and like

23 September 2022, 12:43

Villiers de Vos
Lots of details. Moving along nicely.

23 September 2022, 17:18

Andy Ball
Villiers de Vos- appreciative of your encouragement and comments- cheers!

23 September 2022, 19:23

Micky
Nice Condor so far Andy! I am currently reading a book of U-Boat operations and Condor's contribution was huge. Following!

23 September 2022, 21:18

Andy Ball
Please let me know the outcomeS Micky. I think the Condor was master of all it surveyed for a while until the allies worked out it's nemesis- ship-board Hurricanes and ultimately the Shorts Sunderland- and of course Vichy France capitulated in 1944……

23 September 2022, 21:40

Micky
I will Andy, It is a long book( Hitler's U-Boat's War by Clay Blair). I am in the final pages of 1st volume -1939-1942. "The Hunters"

23 September 2022, 22:47

Andy Ball
@Micky- persevere with your book, I'm sure it will be interesting. Let me know if you have any intelligence you can share with me for W.Nr.0037? I believe it nay have been damaged on the ground?

24 September 2022, 08:09

Andy Ball
Thanks Patryk S!

24 September 2022, 21:43

Neil Patrick
Will let you know about our day for Telford Andy. Probably will be Sunday too.

25 September 2022, 10:26

Andy Ball
Thanks Marius!
I've added some decals today- will move into a light weathering mode next.

27 September 2022, 15:13

Andy Ball
Thanks Marcel and Petr!

28 September 2022, 02:51

Andy Ball
A couple more hours and we'll be landing….

29 September 2022, 15:14

Dave Flitton
Very nice!

29 September 2022, 17:15

Villiers de Vos
A very nice result.

29 September 2022, 18:06

David Taylor
Bombs or 293's Andy.

29 September 2022, 18:47

Andy Ball
Thanks David and Villiers for checking in!

29 September 2022, 21:16

Andy Ball
@David Taylor: what are 293s? I'm going to use (what looks like to me) 2 x 500kg bombs and may try 2x 250kg ones out of the spares

29 September 2022, 21:17

David Taylor
HS 293 guided missiles.Condors carried them latter stages.

29 September 2022, 21:25

Andy Ball
Ah, that'll not be mine. The torpedos supplied are unlikely on a C3 too.

29 September 2022, 21:27

Michael Kohl
The grace of this plane is undeniable. One day I will build one. But in its intended role as passenger plane.

29 September 2022, 21:50

Andy Ball
Thanks for the further likes Neuling and all!!

30 September 2022, 22:41

Andy Ball
True Michael, I draw a parallel to the SM-79, lovely in their civilian guise but once the military had designs on them they lost some of their grace.

30 September 2022, 22:47

Andy Ball
Thanks Kyle!

1 October 2022, 07:02

Cuajete
Fantastic job so far, Andy. I love it!

2 October 2022, 19:24

Juergen Klinglhuber
#metoo 👍

2 October 2022, 20:16

Andy Ball
Thanks Angelo!

2 October 2022, 20:42

Andy Ball
Cuajete and Juergen- thanks for your respective comments! I'm nearly done with it. I don't know how Revell's kit goes together, but despite Trumpy's inaccuracies it is a great piece of plastic togetherness!

2 October 2022, 20:44

Andy Ball
That's a wrap, folks!!

3 October 2022, 09:46

David Taylor
Nice job Andy.

3 October 2022, 10:59

Andy Ball
Thanks David!

3 October 2022, 12:28

Guy Rump
When completed, I'm sure you had that Condor moment....(imaginary of course). 🙂 Great build Andy, I've enjoyed your pics and comments. 👍

3 October 2022, 14:34

Cuajete
Very nice, Andy. Congrats!

3 October 2022, 17:26

Andy Ball
Thanks David C!

3 October 2022, 17:57

Andy Ball
Ha ha Guy, we are of a certain generation that remembers those adverts!? Glad to have had you along on the Bay of Biscay mission!

3 October 2022, 17:58

Andy Ball
Always a pleasure Cuajete to have your comments!

3 October 2022, 17:58

Andy Ball
Thanks Tom

4 October 2022, 06:32

Neuling
Impressive build! Very well done!

4 October 2022, 08:11

Andy Ball
Cheers Neuling!

4 October 2022, 08:20

Andy Ball
Thank-you Alberto!

4 October 2022, 14:38

Andy Ball
Thanks art81

4 October 2022, 15:46

Erik Leijdens
Fantastic result, impressive in size and quality!

4 October 2022, 15:46

Andy Ball
Thanks Erik! She sure is a big bird!

4 October 2022, 15:47

Andy Ball
Thanks Fritz01

4 October 2022, 19:37

Andy Ball
Thanks Carlos and Co. your likes are warmly felt

5 October 2022, 06:01

Andy Ball
Thanks Stefan!

5 October 2022, 08:07

Andy Ball
thank-you Andrea

6 October 2022, 10:58

Andy Ball
Built a couple of 500kg bombs - will add to a diorama in the near future

9 April 2023, 13:06

Cuajete
Andy, the bombs looks great! Surface reproduction looking so good 👍
Waiting for the future dio 😉

9 April 2023, 17:56

Pietro De Angelis
Beautiful!

9 April 2023, 18:30

Andy Ball
Hi Cuajete!, I can recommend them for any Luftwaffe project. The Condor usually carried 4 of them, the kit provided only 2. These resin ones really show up the plastic ones from the kit - but they're a good addition to have!

9 April 2023, 22:45

Andy Ball
Thanks Pietro!, Mille grazie

9 April 2023, 22:45

Bernd Grün
The fabulous Condor. Nice build Andy. Congrats, mate! 👍

13 April 2023, 19:15

Andy Ball
It is a graceful lady, Bernd!
Thanks for having a look

13 April 2023, 20:26

Andy Ball
Thank-you Michael, appreciate the visit

19 April 2023, 15:24

Andy Ball
Thanks Fritz01- glad you like it

19 April 2023, 20:56

Andy Ball
Cheers Helio!

20 April 2023, 07:05

Andy Ball
Thanks Alberto for taking the time

20 April 2023, 09:46

Andy Ball
Thanks Ian, appreciate the interest

20 April 2023, 11:55

Andy Ball
Shar, delighted for the 'like'

25 May 2023, 14:44

Łukasz Gliński
Great topic and finish 👍
That's your best try to hide a build A so far, congrats! October till May, how come?

25 May 2023, 20:01

Andy Ball
Ł: "my 2 methods are stealth, surprise and a fanatical devotion to the genre"….." dammit…I mean my 3 methods…" (with apologies to Monty Python). I guess like some of yours they just get lost under the clutter of other stuff! It's a lovely kit though, just crummy decals and stupid torpedoes. Is pinky still going?

25 May 2023, 22:04

Andy Ball
Gábor: thanks (in Hungarian)

25 May 2023, 22:05

Łukasz Gliński
Which is "köszi" 😋
Yes, Pinky is being riveted currently, new pics to come soon

26 May 2023, 06:59

Andy Ball
Wow, Ł. a multi-linguist in addition to a multi-talented modellist.
thank-you again Mojo

14 June 2023, 12:25

Andy Ball
Mark K, appreciate your visit

16 June 2023, 10:48

Andy Ball
András, hope this inspires you to have a go at the subject!?

23 July 2023, 19:34