P-3C Orion MLD
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86 2 October 2022, 12:27
Jasper Breur
After months of sanding, the fuselage is closed and the wings are on. A little more sanding and then I can finally start with the final assembly, and then painting. This project will take a while…
After months of sanding, the fuselage is closed and the wings are on. A little more sanding and then I can finally start with the final assembly, and then painting. This project will take a while…
2 October 2022, 12:31
tyu
So still a difficult kit to tackle fit wise despite being 3D printed. I expected a better fit TBH, I have this kit on my wish list but your remarks makes me think again about buying it. Not fancying months of sanding and rescribing to be honest. Looking forward to more updates so I can make up my mind
So still a difficult kit to tackle fit wise despite being 3D printed. I expected a better fit TBH, I have this kit on my wish list but your remarks makes me think again about buying it. Not fancying months of sanding and rescribing to be honest. Looking forward to more updates so I can make up my mind
2 October 2022, 14:40
Jasper Breur
Tyu, the fit was disappointing to say the least. The interior is nice, but it means the fuselage doesn't fit together at all. The tolerances are far too small for the parts to line up nicely. Part of it is probably my own fault, but I can't really see how I could have improved the fit. And the fuselage has a separate roof section to show the interior. The idea sounds good, but it doesn't fit at all. Leaving it as a separate part therefore is not an option if you want to make a good model. The underside is even worse, because both the interior and bomb bay don't fit within the fuselage. I sanded those as much as I could, but still an enormous gap was the result. And the surface texture is a huge problem as well as the first photo shows. Getting rid of that really took up the majority of the sanding work. Rescribing is also on the to-do list, but the panel lines in the parts were way too wide anyway.
Tyu, the fit was disappointing to say the least. The interior is nice, but it means the fuselage doesn't fit together at all. The tolerances are far too small for the parts to line up nicely. Part of it is probably my own fault, but I can't really see how I could have improved the fit. And the fuselage has a separate roof section to show the interior. The idea sounds good, but it doesn't fit at all. Leaving it as a separate part therefore is not an option if you want to make a good model. The underside is even worse, because both the interior and bomb bay don't fit within the fuselage. I sanded those as much as I could, but still an enormous gap was the result. And the surface texture is a huge problem as well as the first photo shows. Getting rid of that really took up the majority of the sanding work. Rescribing is also on the to-do list, but the panel lines in the parts were way too wide anyway.
2 October 2022, 15:22
Jasper Breur
So in short, you get a plastic part shaped like an Orion, that has horrible texture and doesn't fit. Detail is sparse and the detail that's there will be lost due to al the sanding required to get an acceptable result. And don't get me started on the detail parts. Those have the same texture problems, but are impossible to sand. The manufacturers reluctance to use a modern 3D printing technology is really the main cause of the problems in this kit. There is absolutely no reason why the detail parts couldn't be manufactured using resin 3D printing.
So in short, you get a plastic part shaped like an Orion, that has horrible texture and doesn't fit. Detail is sparse and the detail that's there will be lost due to al the sanding required to get an acceptable result. And don't get me started on the detail parts. Those have the same texture problems, but are impossible to sand. The manufacturers reluctance to use a modern 3D printing technology is really the main cause of the problems in this kit. There is absolutely no reason why the detail parts couldn't be manufactured using resin 3D printing.
2 October 2022, 15:35
David Culp
Thank you for showing us the build issues with this FDM printed kit. I wonder now if it would be better to go with a vacuform kit (assuming it exists). I've done a little bit of FDM printing, and I've noticed that it's difficult to get parts to an exact size because the print head over-runs the edges a little, and 90 degree corners end up with less than 90 degrees.
Thank you for showing us the build issues with this FDM printed kit. I wonder now if it would be better to go with a vacuform kit (assuming it exists). I've done a little bit of FDM printing, and I've noticed that it's difficult to get parts to an exact size because the print head over-runs the edges a little, and 90 degree corners end up with less than 90 degrees.
2 October 2022, 17:09
Ben M
Even with resin printing, dimensional accuracy can be lacking and sometimes pieces are distorted. But I think it's better than fdm overall.
Even with resin printing, dimensional accuracy can be lacking and sometimes pieces are distorted. But I think it's better than fdm overall.
2 October 2022, 17:54
Jasper Breur
David, I think that despite the work required, I prefer this over a vacuform kit. It is all very sturdy and easier to work with. I'm aware of the limitations of 3D printing, but that's why tolerances are so important. Resin printing largely solves the texture problem, which is especially important on small or complex parts.
David, I think that despite the work required, I prefer this over a vacuform kit. It is all very sturdy and easier to work with. I'm aware of the limitations of 3D printing, but that's why tolerances are so important. Resin printing largely solves the texture problem, which is especially important on small or complex parts.
2 October 2022, 18:15
Thomas Bischoff
Thanks for the pictures! had this on the Radar but step back now.
Thanks for the pictures! had this on the Radar but step back now.
2 October 2022, 18:33
David Culp
The pre-shading and marble coat looks great. This is going to look nice.
The pre-shading and marble coat looks great. This is going to look nice.
16 October 2022, 18:21
Jasper Breur
It's this one Ben 77propeller.com/prod..cils-110-mm-x-70-mm/
My local hobby shop had these, and I needed something like that for this marbling painting. They work perfectly for that. I also used them on my Tornado.
It's this one Ben 77propeller.com/prod..cils-110-mm-x-70-mm/
My local hobby shop had these, and I needed something like that for this marbling painting. They work perfectly for that. I also used them on my Tornado.
16 October 2022, 21:24
Jasper Breur
It's a 3D printed kit. Things would have been a lot better and easier if I printed it myself
It's a 3D printed kit. Things would have been a lot better and easier if I printed it myself
17 October 2022, 15:56
Ben M
I've been curious about this guys kits because he has some really cool subjects. But he comes across a little unhinged on his website, and after seeing what you're dealing with, yeah, it'd be better to print yourself and find tune things to come out better.
I've been curious about this guys kits because he has some really cool subjects. But he comes across a little unhinged on his website, and after seeing what you're dealing with, yeah, it'd be better to print yourself and find tune things to come out better.
28 October 2022, 13:34
Jasper Breur
He makes interesting subjects, but the execution is garbage, especially for the prices he's asking. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.
He makes interesting subjects, but the execution is garbage, especially for the prices he's asking. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.
28 October 2022, 13:59
Jasper Breur
Solid progress this weekend, most painting is done and I'm more than pleased with how this is turning out. Next big obstacle is creating the decals
Solid progress this weekend, most painting is done and I'm more than pleased with how this is turning out. Next big obstacle is creating the decals
30 October 2022, 18:25
Michael Kohl
Wow, suddenly this chunk of resin appears in full glory. Impressive.
Wow, suddenly this chunk of resin appears in full glory. Impressive.
30 October 2022, 20:48
Erik Leijdens
Quite a project Jasper! But with your skills it's gonna be alright. Looks great already
Quite a project Jasper! But with your skills it's gonna be alright. Looks great already
31 October 2022, 16:18
Jasper Breur
Thank you Erik! It sure is a lot of work, but the result will be a truly unique model.
Thank you Erik! It sure is a lot of work, but the result will be a truly unique model.
31 October 2022, 20:53
Jasper Breur
Thank you Thijs! Decals are almost all applied, thanks again for the help! I made a bit of a mistake however, so I don't have enough stencils.
Thank you Thijs! Decals are almost all applied, thanks again for the help! I made a bit of a mistake however, so I don't have enough stencils.
9 December 2022, 07:34
Jasper Breur
Thanks for the kind words Nathan! I'll try to take some progress pictures tomorrow
Thanks for the kind words Nathan! I'll try to take some progress pictures tomorrow
9 December 2022, 23:09
Jasper Breur
Finally finished! Months of work, lots of sanding and much frustration, but very happy with the final result
Finally finished! Months of work, lots of sanding and much frustration, but very happy with the final result
10 January 2023, 11:35
Michael Kohl
You have all the reason to be happy as it is absolutely stunning what you shaped out of this groovy kit.
You have all the reason to be happy as it is absolutely stunning what you shaped out of this groovy kit.
10 January 2023, 13:32
Mart01planes
Great subject matter, you do not see a lot of Orion builds at all. Good stuff!
Great subject matter, you do not see a lot of Orion builds at all. Good stuff!
12 January 2023, 21:26