Sd.Kfz. 164 Nashorn
non-nude

william wise
alrighty, i cant wait to see how this one turns out, looking forward to the progress and please if you run into any problem areas please post

james johnson
Thanks William!
I don?t know, should be a pretty straight forward build. No aftermarket stuff. I would have liked to have gotten the Voyager set of PE, but couldn?t seem to locate anywhere with it in stock.
I?m thinking of integrating some panzer grey into the otherwise tri-color paint scheme.
Most of the time will be in cleaning up the magic tracks and wheels. Again, I?ll have to look up how to determine which magic tracks are which (left versus right) as the instructions don?t say. I might assume that the left package contains the left links and that by left Dragon means the port side?
If anyone could save me a little time on this, I?d appreciate it!

william wise
hey James i dont know how to add pics to post but go to my page and see the pic i posted

william wise
i deleted that post as that's not my image and someone may rightfully get there picture feelings hurt even thou i just found on the net but you got the idea so you should be good now to get off the computer and go build something

Frank Krause
Hi James, usually Dragon provides the magic tracks for the left and right side in different colours (light and dark grey). Somewhere in the instructions should be mentioned, which colour is meant for which side.

Mike Kryza
Hi James - the way to use the track links is fixed indeed in the instruction sheet. It's only a very small picture. But I think it's not necessary to clean the tracks. You can use them straight out of the box as I do.

james johnson
William???..Thanks for the pic, I dutifully had made a copy of it shortly after you posted it ; )
, again thanks!
Frank, again Happy Birthday! I haven?t examined the Nashorn instructions in great detail, but the last set of Magic Tracks that I assembled were with a MK IV and in that case I looked and looked and looked and could not find where the two colored tracks where appropriated ??but I suck at finding stuff like that,so maybe it was there?.I?ll look even more carefully in the Nashorn instructions. But as William has pointed out, I doesn?t really matter that much as long as you?ve got them in the correct juxtaposition.
And @ Mike???I was kind of thinking that cleaning them might not be necessary but was reserving my final judgment until I get to that point of the build. Now I am even more inclined to slough that off.
Thanks for the input guys!
Tonight I cut my first sprue on this build, here we go!!

H K
Link to a build log, so you can avoid the errors of the instruction- bpmodels.net/Model/A..2/viewtopic.php?t=45

Frank Krause
Hi James,
thanks again! After reading some reviews I understand your problems with the tracks. In the newer Dragon kits you can easily distinguish left from right track, but unfortunately your kit doesn't belong to that group. All I found is this here from a review:
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The tracks are now "Magic Tracks" which are handed due to the different pin and bolt insertions, so you have to look closely to see which is which. The directions cheerfully dub them "ZL" and " ZR" ? but then don't tell you which bag is which! But after 10 minutes with a lighted 10x jeweler's loupe I think the ones on the LEFT side of the header card are the ZL links and the ones on the RIGHT side are the ZR links, which makes a sort of sense of them. I cannot be sure how well they fit under the fender, but they are at least easier to assemble.
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james johnson
HK; Thanks for the build log! I love these things and referred to one extensively for a Dragon Mk IV I built not too very long ago. I did find it interesting that even the build log was not without errors. But, nevertheless, I shall refer to the link that you have so thoughtfully provided.
And Frank! Get this; upon closer examination of the links I can tell that there IS a difference. BUT, the ZL links are in the RIGHT bag, and the ZR links are in the LEFT bag!
I haven?t read that build log yet, but perhaps the answer is in there. Or perhaps as William Wise has offered; don?t worry about it.
THEN; to add a higher exponent to the factor is that one must assume that by ?left?, Dragon means port, and by ?right?, Dragon means starboard.
I have offered this to a friend of mine: Why don?t the manufacturers give one of the kits to one of their employees, give said employees some basic modeling tools, lock said employee in a room with a toilet and some food and instruct that very same employee to construct the beta version of the model with the beta instructions? Upon completion (of constructing the kit), solicit an opinion from the employee. All this before the instructions go to final print.

william wise
I never worried about it as long as they were positioned correctly but i never knew why they were the way they were but now i know and honestly if frank spent 10 min with a magnifier to determine which is which im still not going to worry about it and i think they do give kits for beta testing but they give them to expert modelers which dose not help a normal modeler like myself

H K
If I remember correctly some of the errors of the Hornisse kit are corrected in the Nashorn kit but not all of them.