F-4C Black Stripes
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2 27 September 2017, 22:03
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Hi Donald I've take seat. Watching your Danag Bird too looks very cool. Building currently the same. Have fun cheers 🙂
28 September 2017, 05:30
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Thank you Konrad. It will be a couple weeks before I get on this one. Looking forward to it as the Monogram kit is fairly simple.
28 September 2017, 11:29
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So, while I am between things on the Bone, I have started this one. I had to hack up the cock pit tub as it has a molded in seat bottom. Decent detail, but not as good as the Eduard Brassin offering I have. A lot carving and sanding. I will have to get a pic before I put the seats in. In reference pics I noticed that the radar (I am presuming its radar or the like) screens in the pics all are an orange red, NOT green. So i went that way with them.
19 November 2017, 19:07
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Looks good so far. Which marking have you chosen for this one? The one on pic. 1?
19 November 2017, 19:59
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Konrad, that is correct. I have seen people do the red stripes many times. Figured I would go the other route.
i am also going to do her right out of the paint shop. Absolutely minimal weathering. No fading.
19 November 2017, 21:12
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Two Phantom or not to Phantom? That's no question!
Where are Patrick and Spanjaard?
19 November 2017, 21:13
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ha ha ha, here i am. mine is close to completion and i must say, that although i love it, after two in a row and about 8 months each, I will be happy to do something else than phantoms 🙂
well, i still have a finished cockpit that does not have a Phantom to be added to 😛
19 November 2017, 21:29
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Spanjaard, I knew you would be around. LOL And you do have a good chunk of work already done having done dueling cock pits. Grab another out of your stash (because I just KNOW you have have at leas tas many as I do sitting on the shelf) and do it as a side project ot your other. 😄
Eugen, thank you.
19 November 2017, 22:40
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ha ha ha, nice idea Donald, but, sorry to dissapoint you, the only F-4 sitting in stash today, almost fit inside of that cockpit! Trumpeter 1/350! so no Phantom in sight to place that finished cockpit.
I have a pretty old monogram back at my parents, that could use a restoration job, and a new cockpit. But i will spare myself the pain of removing the paint out of it... you can see it in my "hall of shame" album.
I need to seriously reduce my stash before i even think about any more F-4s (although that ZM is a veeeeery tempting one!)
20 November 2017, 00:26
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Yeah Donald absolutely great choice. This one will be very nice one. Are the decals included in the kit already or are they aftermarket? I cant find them🙂.
20 November 2017, 06:44
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I didn't know phantoms had invasion stripes!? LOL You do get tired of seeing only the red.
20 November 2017, 13:06
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Spanjaard, I have like 5 or 6 sitting on the shelf. From the 1/32 Tamiya to a couple 1/72 Hasegawas. 😄
Konrad, in the kit. The newest reboxing of the old Monogram kit.
Timothy, that was kind of my thought! LOL A Phantom with invasion stripes. LOL
21 November 2017, 01:10
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So in between putty and sand sessions with the bone, a little more cockpit work done. Like I said, I had to gouge out a large portion to remove the molded in seat bottom. The Eduard stuff fits. Tightly.
21 November 2017, 05:03
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Did some more work on the bang seats between Bone intake sessions. Was making good progress when I spilled a bottle of CA accelerator all over everything. After cleaning up I had to walk away from the bench. I was a tad pissed AND I hate the smell of that stuff.
Spanjaard, I posted a pic of my Phantoms. Are you sure you dont have a stash of them?😉 LOL
And no, the 15 and 86 are NOT my other two favorite planes. Not at all. 😄
22 November 2017, 03:49
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ha ha ha, thank god they are not your favorites, you only have 5 of each 🙂. no, i will not get more F-4s for the time being (i hope not to see Z-M in Utrech next saturday). Pity for that cockpit, but it will not be used, for a veeeeeeery long time (besides, the Z-M probably does not need it, so i would be back int he same situation). since i can not reduce my stash by building faster, at least, i have to try not to increase it. Well .....the Ohka i got yesterday...... does not count....eeer, it is too small 😛 😄
22 November 2017, 10:43
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Got the cockpit finished and the fuselage and wings together. Time do some seam work.
29 November 2017, 18:06
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very nice pit, but... are the remove before flight not a bit too big?
29 November 2017, 20:01
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They are 1/48. They do seem large though. Maybe some 1/72 would be better for the cockpit
29 November 2017, 21:36
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The cockpit looks awesome. But as Spanjaard said, the rbf things look to big.
30 November 2017, 12:04
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You ever do something and then look at it saying to yourself, it looks good, but something is wrong? yeah, that was me until you guys pointed this out. The RBF tags I have are the ones for the missiles and what not, NOT the cockpit ones, which are indeed smaller. Thanks for pointing that out guys. I found a couple in a cockpit set for an RAF Phantom that I will scavenge.
30 November 2017, 20:34
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Looking good Donald. I have a boatload of that kit, and of all the ones I have built I have never done the striped color scheme. LOL.
1 December 2017, 00:57
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So this one is trash now. The cockpit was in wrong and after taking it apart and 2 hours of trying to get it to fit correctly, it got slam dunked into the trash can.
2 December 2017, 01:03
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Sorry to hear that Donald, but at 18.00 dollars not a major loss, at least it wasn't a 75.00 or 100.00 kit.
2 December 2017, 06:13
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Now here's the interesting part. I had another of this kit only a much earlier release. I grab that and it's the exact same cockpit but fits perfectly. So I don't know if the molds are just that out of whack this many years later or what. But I'm just going to go with the kit cockpit and ad some details to it and leave it at that. And use the decals from the newer kit.
2 December 2017, 07:23
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Clifford, if it had been that expensive of a kit and had these issues I would have been extremely ticked off.
2 December 2017, 07:25
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Bummer Don! You gotta hate when it pushes you to that point! I still remember a car at the drag strip named ( TIME , Money and aggravation) Being a mechanic myself I had to laugh.
2 December 2017, 13:15
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LOL that is only the third time in like 40 years that has happened. I will get back on it with the older kit tomorrow probably.
2 December 2017, 19:13
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Alrighty then. So, I jumped back in the saddle here with the kit from the original run in 79, back when the molds were brand spanking new. The kit had been kept well all that time so nothing warped. And amazingly enough, the fit was much better! Still needed some putty, but not as much as the new boxing. I think they have gotten everything they really can out of those molds. Time for a new tool Revell.
Anyway, I went with a mostly OOB approach this time. Only a couple PE pieces on the seats. Also used a darker grey in the cockpit. It came out rather nicely I think. Once I sand off the little bit of excess putty, the canopies will be masked and tacked in place.
12 December 2017, 05:32
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well done Donald. it will be a very nice Phantom, i am sure about it.
12 December 2017, 06:14
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Thanks guys. Now the pressure is on. Spanjaard, master of Phantoms, has said it will be good. So it must!😉
12 December 2017, 23:07
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You can use a bit of confidence. I say, Lady Luck smile on DD2!
12 December 2017, 23:10
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So, as we were talking about rescribing on Martins build thread, I figured I would take pics of how I do it. I lost some of the panel lines on the top of the fuselage. What I do is take Dymo tape (the stuff used in the old label makers), peel off the backing and stick it as a straight edge where the line needs to be done. You can then just run your scriber along the edge, and as long as you have it lined up right, you will have a straight panel line.
I find that I can get two, maybe three lines out of each piece of tape before the stickiness is not enough to hold it down. Obviously this pretty much only works where you have a straight line and you dont have to mess with too much of a curve.
13 December 2017, 19:14
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I can get a straight line. What I find annoying is that my scribed lines NEVER match the originals in shape, depth, angle etc...
Thanks for the tip anyway 👍
13 December 2017, 19:40
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Yes, that is definitely annoying. Another reason I dont like doing it. LOL
13 December 2017, 19:47
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I got the RF-4E all rescribed today and started the pit. I use dymo tape also, plus a straight edge, and I found a flexiable bendable thin ruler at hobby lobby, and I can lay it across panel lines like on the top of the fuselage, and it conforms to the cross section and I just run my scriber along it.
14 December 2017, 02:13
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i have an old set from Verlinden,
scalemates.com/kits/188909-v..late-for-1-48-scale-projects
but there is quite a few very similar in the market
SCM Search: scribing
or simply
SCM Search: scribing template
14 December 2017, 06:53
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ooo, now that would be great for circles. Which I tend to not even try. LOL
14 December 2017, 22:12
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Finally got some work done on this baby. Underside painted, brown on and wing tips painted white.
12 February 2018, 02:25
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I saw that Cliff. You got that done a lot faster than I am this one. LOL
12 February 2018, 12:08
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Darn! Even with those big black and white stripes on it, I seem to have missed this one... Looking really good Donald!
12 February 2018, 15:25
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Thanks Stephen. 🙂
Patrick, I have been lax on working on this one. Not many updates of late.
12 February 2018, 20:45
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I know the situation... I'm replying a lot over here but hardly ever find time to actually build something. My F-16 is covered in dust already...
12 February 2018, 21:13
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Patrick you always can say it is a very special kind of weathering technics. 🙂 👍
Donald your build looks very nice so far can't wait to see it finished 👍
13 February 2018, 06:44
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OK, got the main painting done and went ahead and put the top side stripes on. Have to wait until tomorrow and let the decals settles in all the way from the solva set. Trim excess and the like then.
26 February 2018, 03:55
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This is really looking good Donald! Those black and white stripes sure are not subtle. 🙂
26 February 2018, 04:42
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Looking very nice. Revell finally didcontinued this kit. Wonder if we will get a new tool one from them or a new decal option of the old kit.
26 February 2018, 20:45
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Thank you for the kind words gentlemen. 🙂
And yes, those stripes ARE pretty bold. As I said, I decided on the black ones as they resemble invasion stripes.Plus everyone does the red ones. LOL
Clifford, did they? This was the most current boxing of this kit. I sincerely hope they do a new tooling. I would be all over that in a heartbeat.
26 February 2018, 21:43
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If they can give us a new tool 1/32 P-51D for 23.00 dollars they should be able to give us a new tool 1/48 F-4 at a reasonable price. They have done a couple of new tool 1/72 F-4's I believe.
28 February 2018, 01:35
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Which is also over 20 years old now😉 Their "new" tool 1/72 F-4 is from '97.
And regarding the F-4, I think we already have some nice kits.
Sure all of them have their flaws, but that would be the same with Revell😉 (especially if I look at their upcoming F/A-18 )
The next company I can think of, which will upscale their F-4 is Airfix.
28 February 2018, 06:11
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That would be nice, as their FG2 looks very nice, so a 1/48 version of that would be very nice. I think the Academy F-4 is probally the second best on the market, the Zukeoi-Maura kit being the best. The Hasegawa ones are starting to become a little hard to find, except for the "G" and "J".
2 March 2018, 00:33
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I perused the ZM kit. It did not strike me as significantly better than the Academy.
2 March 2018, 01:37
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It sure is expensive, I will say that for it. I like the Academy kits, especially the one piece upper fuselage.
2 March 2018, 05:24
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It is and that's why I haven't bought one. I can get one of the Eduard Da Nang boxing's of the Academy for less. And the Tamiya 1/32 Phantom has that one piece upper as well. That needs to be like a standard no matter who makes it.
2 March 2018, 17:44
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I agree. The AMK F-14 looks like it is going to be nice, and much cheaper than the Tamiya or Hobby Boss.
4 March 2018, 03:56
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*LOOOOOOOONG sigh* OK, so the decal suck. I mean badly. The white stripes are virtually see through once dry. So I stripped them off, painted white in that area and put the red stripes on. Wellllll, they wrinkled up and would not settle out. I also discovered that the exhausts on this kit have NO detail at all inside. Just a blank tube. So I need to get some resin ones for the Hasegawa kit and see if they will work on this one. They should. If not, I do have at least one Hasegawa F-4 I can use them on.
So I am setting this aside for now. There is a big show here on the 21st of April. I am going to try to get my 1/32 F-18 done by then to show it. So I will be concentrating solely on that. I will get back to this frustrating bit of plastic after that.
15 March 2018, 20:01
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I got a set of Resin flame holders from Spruebrothers for that kit. I can't remember who makes them, but I will find out and let you know. Good luck on the F-18.
15 March 2018, 21:35
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What stripes are you talking about anyway? I mean the stripes across the back look really solid to me...
16 March 2018, 17:50
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I took that pic before they completely dried and set. You could clearly see the camo pattern a d colors through the white.
16 March 2018, 18:01
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Oh what a pitty Donald , may you can try to repaint the white areas 🤔
16 March 2018, 18:08
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Stephen, I tried that. Then reapplied the red stripes. They would not smooth out. This just is one of those that I need to set aside and come back to. I have markings for another F-4 left over from the Good Evening Da Nang boxing. I will just do those.
16 March 2018, 20:46
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Keep calm, take your time 🙂 it will turn out good Donald, I'm shure 👍
16 March 2018, 20:53
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Don, you say they are black stripes, I say they are white stripes. All a matter of perspective. I have enjoyed going back over this build this Saturday morning, waiting for Mrs Hardy to wake up. Might even spend a bit of time on your wall too. Thanks for displaying the build. Very enjoyable!
16 March 2018, 22:26
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Peter, good point! LOL Regardless, the white portion, be they stripes or no, is not much more than gauze when it comes to opacity. 🙁 And feel free to peruse away! 🙂
17 March 2018, 03:18
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OK, so this will be the project I get going once I get into the B-1. I couldnt do another really large model, so I figured what the hell, lets do another F-4. You can never have too many phantoms, right? 😄