Egyptian MiG-21PF
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44 14 August 2023, 15:32
Ludvík Kružík
John, I don't know if this falls into your decision not to go all in and leave some things as they are.
For the Egyptian version you're building, a narrow version of the vertical tailplane with a broken leading edge would be appropriate. The kit comes standard with this version of the vertical tailplane without the parachute brake cover. To make the Egyptian look right, you would have to cut the parachute brake cover out of the wide tail surface (which you now have glued to the model) and add it to the root of the narrow vertical tail surface.
But if you used a wide vertical tailplane with a parachute brake cover on purpose (because it saves you work), take my comment as an unimportant afterthought. 🙂
John, I don't know if this falls into your decision not to go all in and leave some things as they are.
For the Egyptian version you're building, a narrow version of the vertical tailplane with a broken leading edge would be appropriate. The kit comes standard with this version of the vertical tailplane without the parachute brake cover. To make the Egyptian look right, you would have to cut the parachute brake cover out of the wide tail surface (which you now have glued to the model) and add it to the root of the narrow vertical tail surface.
But if you used a wide vertical tailplane with a parachute brake cover on purpose (because it saves you work), take my comment as an unimportant afterthought. 🙂
14 August 2023, 21:27
John
Nah, it's not unimportant, but I'm trying to avoid cutting as much as possible and I will live with the shame of MiG fans pointing and laughing at me. 😄
Nah, it's not unimportant, but I'm trying to avoid cutting as much as possible and I will live with the shame of MiG fans pointing and laughing at me. 😄
14 August 2023, 22:22
Ludvík Kružík
You're not the only one who built this Egyptian MiG with a wide vertical tailplane. You can find more models built like this on the internet 🙂.
... And when it comes down to it, you can always claim you're building a lesser known version that was developed specifically for the Egyptian Air Force 😄 😄 😄
You're not the only one who built this Egyptian MiG with a wide vertical tailplane. You can find more models built like this on the internet 🙂.
... And when it comes down to it, you can always claim you're building a lesser known version that was developed specifically for the Egyptian Air Force 😄 😄 😄
15 August 2023, 06:27
Marius
Hi guys, actually there are two "lesser known" variants of the MiG-21 operated by Egypt and Syria: the MiG-21PFS and the MiG-21FL. The aircraft you are trying to replicate from the reference photo is a well known PFS. On the other hand, the MiG-21FL was operated by Egypt in large numbers by 1967, although many were destroyed in the Six Day War (all in natural metall finish), while the few survivers were painted afterwards, some even with the Nile Camouflage. Some even saw action in the October 1973 War. The model you're building with the PF cabin and large vertical stabilizer matches quite well the MiG-21FL version. If I am not mistaking, the wing flaps of the MiG-21FL are also originating from the standard PF, but I need to double check that later. If you are willing to change the camouflage pattern to match an existing Egyptian MiG-21FL, I can look in my references for some camouflage patterns.
Otherwise, great effort on the painting, it would be a pitty to dismiss all that effort.
Hi guys, actually there are two "lesser known" variants of the MiG-21 operated by Egypt and Syria: the MiG-21PFS and the MiG-21FL. The aircraft you are trying to replicate from the reference photo is a well known PFS. On the other hand, the MiG-21FL was operated by Egypt in large numbers by 1967, although many were destroyed in the Six Day War (all in natural metall finish), while the few survivers were painted afterwards, some even with the Nile Camouflage. Some even saw action in the October 1973 War. The model you're building with the PF cabin and large vertical stabilizer matches quite well the MiG-21FL version. If I am not mistaking, the wing flaps of the MiG-21FL are also originating from the standard PF, but I need to double check that later. If you are willing to change the camouflage pattern to match an existing Egyptian MiG-21FL, I can look in my references for some camouflage patterns.
Otherwise, great effort on the painting, it would be a pitty to dismiss all that effort.
23 August 2023, 04:15
John
Thanks for all the likes and comments guys. 👍
Marius, I think I will stick with this scheme as this one is not going to end up resembling anything accurate and the Nile valley scheme is now binned in favor of what I have. I simply used the kit profile and enlarged it 241% to get a template in scale then cut my own masks to set the camo borders. I agree that the Academy kit appears to be an FL variant (maybe a PFM?) with the wide-chord tail, but they didn't do their homework in selecting the scheme as the one pictured appeared on EAF MF variants (I think? haha), but I've never seen a pic of an FL or PFM in this camo, just drawings, and that's probably the extent of Academy's research on the subject as well. The kit flaps are a bit strange as they are supposedly a mix of Fowler-type flaps, correct for the PF variants but the actual mounting on the wing is more like the SPS type of blown flaps. Like I said, with all these weird variations and mix of types, at this point I'm just trying to make it look nice and will get an Eduard when I want to get an accurate version. That being said, the kit is not bad other than the poor cockpit detail. The panel lines are quite nice, not too big but enough to hold a wash without looking too stark. They're also very sharp. As for their accuracy, who knows?
Thanks for all the likes and comments guys. 👍
Marius, I think I will stick with this scheme as this one is not going to end up resembling anything accurate and the Nile valley scheme is now binned in favor of what I have. I simply used the kit profile and enlarged it 241% to get a template in scale then cut my own masks to set the camo borders. I agree that the Academy kit appears to be an FL variant (maybe a PFM?) with the wide-chord tail, but they didn't do their homework in selecting the scheme as the one pictured appeared on EAF MF variants (I think? haha), but I've never seen a pic of an FL or PFM in this camo, just drawings, and that's probably the extent of Academy's research on the subject as well. The kit flaps are a bit strange as they are supposedly a mix of Fowler-type flaps, correct for the PF variants but the actual mounting on the wing is more like the SPS type of blown flaps. Like I said, with all these weird variations and mix of types, at this point I'm just trying to make it look nice and will get an Eduard when I want to get an accurate version. That being said, the kit is not bad other than the poor cockpit detail. The panel lines are quite nice, not too big but enough to hold a wash without looking too stark. They're also very sharp. As for their accuracy, who knows?
23 August 2023, 15:32
Ludvík Kružík
John, I've come to the same conclusion as you. Since I use metallic polishable paints, it's worked well for me to spray them last.
The camouflage looks very good. This "coat" really suits Mig. 👍
John, I've come to the same conclusion as you. Since I use metallic polishable paints, it's worked well for me to spray them last.
The camouflage looks very good. This "coat" really suits Mig. 👍
30 August 2023, 22:20
John
Thanks for all the comments and likes, guys 👍 The metal section damage has been repaired but now the Alclad is acting up. I love/hate the stuff. Weird mix of cobwebs spraying out, bizarre. It's obviously drying as it comes out of the brush and no settings were changed.
Thanks for all the comments and likes, guys 👍 The metal section damage has been repaired but now the Alclad is acting up. I love/hate the stuff. Weird mix of cobwebs spraying out, bizarre. It's obviously drying as it comes out of the brush and no settings were changed.
31 August 2023, 15:22
Marius
John, congratulations on finishing this beautiful model!
I like the weathering from the underside and the overall careful painting.
John, congratulations on finishing this beautiful model!
I like the weathering from the underside and the overall careful painting.
14 September 2023, 12:44
John
Thanks Marius, glad you like it. I'm happy to be done with it and learned quite a bit from the build. Looking forward to doing an Eduard version.
Thanks Marius, glad you like it. I'm happy to be done with it and learned quite a bit from the build. Looking forward to doing an Eduard version.
14 September 2023, 16:32
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Academy's (relatively) old kit. Nothing special about it and pretty much OOB except for FM Details' cockpit set.