THIS IN NOT A TAMIYA KIT!! NO WAY
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24 July 2013, 12:06
Mike Pullen
It's just my choice Vitor.
I can appreciate the man is a legend in his own right but i don't agree with some things he has done and said.
It's just my choice Vitor.
I can appreciate the man is a legend in his own right but i don't agree with some things he has done and said.
24 July 2013, 23:13
Vitor Costa
ah ok!
Well usually when i build something (and almost 99% are war machines) i dont care about the role it took on History, because that way i would not build nothing!!! 😄
I do it for the machines itself, beautiful, powerful, or only because i like to try to replicate it, not because it make x raids or killings... Ok some are iconic ones, who doesn't know the yellow 14? Red Baron? But is only me and i will respect everybody ideas. For me i dont care if they are used to do bad things to humans... Can you imagine a collection without a ME-109... Zero... F-16... F-15I, F-15, Su-7, Mig-21 T-62, Abrams, Leopard, Tiger, B-17... well all this machines have done bad things...
Even the vehicles used by some dictators are awesome so... 😄
ah ok!
Well usually when i build something (and almost 99% are war machines) i dont care about the role it took on History, because that way i would not build nothing!!! 😄
I do it for the machines itself, beautiful, powerful, or only because i like to try to replicate it, not because it make x raids or killings... Ok some are iconic ones, who doesn't know the yellow 14? Red Baron? But is only me and i will respect everybody ideas. For me i dont care if they are used to do bad things to humans... Can you imagine a collection without a ME-109... Zero... F-16... F-15I, F-15, Su-7, Mig-21 T-62, Abrams, Leopard, Tiger, B-17... well all this machines have done bad things...
Even the vehicles used by some dictators are awesome so... 😄
24 July 2013, 23:55
Mike Pullen
Ok, 2 words - "Amorous Len".
I'm sure google may show what i mean and even possibly the reason.
I've also followed his facebook page for a while. I'm not a fan of his and wouldn't go to the trouble of correcting decals where required to build a model of what he flew.
Ok, 2 words - "Amorous Len".
I'm sure google may show what i mean and even possibly the reason.
I've also followed his facebook page for a while. I'm not a fan of his and wouldn't go to the trouble of correcting decals where required to build a model of what he flew.
25 July 2013, 00:07
Bill Gilman
Surprised to hear that the kit is a dog. I've seen this built up many times, and it has always looked quite nice. Vitor, I am sure that with your skills, this dog will shine!
As far as Yeager trademarking his name and likeness, he is hardly the first to do so. Try marketing anything with a celebrity's name or likeness on it and see how soon you get a call from the legal team. That's life. Heck, even the RAF has gone after manufacturers not licensing their logo before it's used on a model. Are we going to boycott all RAF models?
Is Yeager an arrogant jerk? Sure, all you have to do is listen to him. But that does not detract from the history represented by the X-1. I'm with Vitor on this one!
Surprised to hear that the kit is a dog. I've seen this built up many times, and it has always looked quite nice. Vitor, I am sure that with your skills, this dog will shine!
As far as Yeager trademarking his name and likeness, he is hardly the first to do so. Try marketing anything with a celebrity's name or likeness on it and see how soon you get a call from the legal team. That's life. Heck, even the RAF has gone after manufacturers not licensing their logo before it's used on a model. Are we going to boycott all RAF models?
Is Yeager an arrogant jerk? Sure, all you have to do is listen to him. But that does not detract from the history represented by the X-1. I'm with Vitor on this one!
25 July 2013, 00:25
Mike Pullen
If my interests in aircraft were the same as Vitor's then it wouldn't stop me neither.
Like i said, i appreciate the man became a legend in his own right.
As far as top WWII 8th Air Force aces go Yeager isn't right up there really so i won't be going out of my way to get decals for his aircraft.
As far as trademarking goes, i agree that peoples names should not be used for financial gain by companies like ATT did without payment or permission but as far as markings on aircraft that were never owned by an individual is concerned is a different matter entirely.
Companies wanting royalties for miniature products of brands they own is only to be expected.
The RAF expecting a licence fee for logo to be used on a model kit is i suspect due more to the fact they need to gain more funds somehow, no matter how miniscule since this government of ours is funding less and less.
Next we'll have the navy trademarking the ensign, the army trademarking unit badges and wanting licence fees, when will it end? When no consumer wants to pay the hefty cost of all those licences.
If my interests in aircraft were the same as Vitor's then it wouldn't stop me neither.
Like i said, i appreciate the man became a legend in his own right.
As far as top WWII 8th Air Force aces go Yeager isn't right up there really so i won't be going out of my way to get decals for his aircraft.
As far as trademarking goes, i agree that peoples names should not be used for financial gain by companies like ATT did without payment or permission but as far as markings on aircraft that were never owned by an individual is concerned is a different matter entirely.
Companies wanting royalties for miniature products of brands they own is only to be expected.
The RAF expecting a licence fee for logo to be used on a model kit is i suspect due more to the fact they need to gain more funds somehow, no matter how miniscule since this government of ours is funding less and less.
Next we'll have the navy trademarking the ensign, the army trademarking unit badges and wanting licence fees, when will it end? When no consumer wants to pay the hefty cost of all those licences.
25 July 2013, 01:43
Vitor Costa
Thank you for your feedback 😄
Mike like i told you, i understand and i will respect your thought, but i will not "renounce" to a beautiful machine with beautiful lines, that was made by hundreds of persons only because the "driver" was an asshole!! 😄 (sorry the bad word).
And there is always another version to build... on this kit is possible to build at least two more versions, i think that not all of them have been piloted by him.
In the end i only want to have that amazing machine on my shelf, because i have fun building it, because i learn a lot of new stuff when i was "digging" on the net looking for info, and in the end i have something unique, something made by me, something that is not perfect and that is going to make me want for more and more until the day i make the "perfect" model...
As you may know this is not only an hobby for me, 90% of what i build is done under commission, as you also know there is a huge crisis in my beloved Portugal and for that i can not allow my self to refuse to do this or that kit, and im glad for it, always learning and practicing... in the end... it's only plastic.!!!
😄 😄 👍
Thank you for your feedback 😄
Mike like i told you, i understand and i will respect your thought, but i will not "renounce" to a beautiful machine with beautiful lines, that was made by hundreds of persons only because the "driver" was an asshole!! 😄 (sorry the bad word).
And there is always another version to build... on this kit is possible to build at least two more versions, i think that not all of them have been piloted by him.
In the end i only want to have that amazing machine on my shelf, because i have fun building it, because i learn a lot of new stuff when i was "digging" on the net looking for info, and in the end i have something unique, something made by me, something that is not perfect and that is going to make me want for more and more until the day i make the "perfect" model...
As you may know this is not only an hobby for me, 90% of what i build is done under commission, as you also know there is a huge crisis in my beloved Portugal and for that i can not allow my self to refuse to do this or that kit, and im glad for it, always learning and practicing... in the end... it's only plastic.!!!
😄 😄 👍
25 July 2013, 10:53
Bill Gilman
Just for giggles I did some research on this issue. Gen. Chuck Yeager, Inc. filed to trademark the text "Glamorous Glennis" in the US in 2005, it was accepted and published for opposition in 2006. This means that others who felt they had a right to use this term could oppose the registration. The trademark was granted in 2010. During the four years between publishing for opposition and final registration of the trademark, no one presented a strong enough case to stop the process.
The stated purpose of the trademark was its use on "scale model airplanes, toy model hobbycraft kits, die cast model airplanes, mouse pads, clocks, posters, prints, lithographs." A date of 31-12-1980 was provided as the in-commerce date. Obviously, marketing and/or licensing of the trademark on these items was the intent of Yeager's company.
The term "Glamorous Glennis" refers, of course, to Yeager's wife, and was used on several aircraft that he flew. While true that he did not own these aircraft personally, it is also true that the US Government did not own the text "Glamorous Glennis" just because he painted it on his airplane. While it is common for military services to have servicemen assign intellectual property rights of publications back to the service, it is a bit of a reach to describe writing your wife's name on a aircraft to be a publication.
It is very likely that Yeager was the first to use "Glamorous Glennis" on an airplane, and in legal terms was the originator and owner of the phrase when used in conjunction with military aircraft. His company followed the proper rules to obtain a trademark in the US, it was processed properly, no one presented a case for opposition (or such opposition was not strong enough), and his company now owns the trademark rights in the US. I have no clue if trademarks were obtained in other countries.
While we all have our personal opinions of the man, the exercising of the rights of his company under this trademark have not been unethical or illegal. If someone can provide prior use of the term "Glamorous Glennis" before that of Gen. Yeager, the trademark could still be invalidated. (The US currently uses first use, not first filing, for trademarks and patents. Other countries are different.)
So, Vitor - we need more pictures!!
Just for giggles I did some research on this issue. Gen. Chuck Yeager, Inc. filed to trademark the text "Glamorous Glennis" in the US in 2005, it was accepted and published for opposition in 2006. This means that others who felt they had a right to use this term could oppose the registration. The trademark was granted in 2010. During the four years between publishing for opposition and final registration of the trademark, no one presented a strong enough case to stop the process.
The stated purpose of the trademark was its use on "scale model airplanes, toy model hobbycraft kits, die cast model airplanes, mouse pads, clocks, posters, prints, lithographs." A date of 31-12-1980 was provided as the in-commerce date. Obviously, marketing and/or licensing of the trademark on these items was the intent of Yeager's company.
The term "Glamorous Glennis" refers, of course, to Yeager's wife, and was used on several aircraft that he flew. While true that he did not own these aircraft personally, it is also true that the US Government did not own the text "Glamorous Glennis" just because he painted it on his airplane. While it is common for military services to have servicemen assign intellectual property rights of publications back to the service, it is a bit of a reach to describe writing your wife's name on a aircraft to be a publication.
It is very likely that Yeager was the first to use "Glamorous Glennis" on an airplane, and in legal terms was the originator and owner of the phrase when used in conjunction with military aircraft. His company followed the proper rules to obtain a trademark in the US, it was processed properly, no one presented a case for opposition (or such opposition was not strong enough), and his company now owns the trademark rights in the US. I have no clue if trademarks were obtained in other countries.
While we all have our personal opinions of the man, the exercising of the rights of his company under this trademark have not been unethical or illegal. If someone can provide prior use of the term "Glamorous Glennis" before that of Gen. Yeager, the trademark could still be invalidated. (The US currently uses first use, not first filing, for trademarks and patents. Other countries are different.)
So, Vitor - we need more pictures!!
25 July 2013, 20:57
Vitor Costa
Hi Bill, you are not going to like it, i will build a submarine first 😄 otherwise i think that the kit is going to break another speed record... of the fastest kit against the wall!! 😄
I will build it slowly and simultaneously with the Submarine, i hope that you dont be disappointed...
Hi Bill, you are not going to like it, i will build a submarine first 😄 otherwise i think that the kit is going to break another speed record... of the fastest kit against the wall!! 😄
I will build it slowly and simultaneously with the Submarine, i hope that you dont be disappointed...
25 July 2013, 21:18
Album info
Hello mates
I was building (i still am) and it was so bad that i didnt believe that Tamiya could have done nothing like this, so i went here to check and... surprise (not really) this is not a Tamiya kit, im glad to know it, but angry because it is a pain in the a$$# to build!
Who said that small kits are easy buildings????
Well let me go to the putty/sanding work again 😄