Typ VII C / 41

Holger Kranich
Cool project and a real cool thumbnail! "Der letzte Mann". 👍

Ivo Fanczi
☺☺danke äh thank you

Ivo Fanczi
U997 is the boat on the boxcover i want the same painting and markings on my own kit ☺☺

Ivo Fanczi
If someone needs a info about U997 ubootarchiv.de/ubootwiki/index.php/U_997

Ivo Fanczi
And an article from the forum (Modellversium) about the kit and how a guy build this kit (it is in german ) modellversium.de/gal..vii-c-41-revell.html

Ivo Fanczi
uboat.net/types/viic-41.htm I found an info about the sub in english thank god for the internet

Holger Kranich
I´m looking forward your build!

Ivo Fanczi
Thank you Holger

Ivo Fanczi
Its my duty to build an awesome submarine .☺☺

Holger Kranich
You are on the best way to do it!😉

Choppa Nutta
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Cool project, shaping up nicely and the one finished by Martin is excellent, as Mr Burns might say 🙂

Must I do fancy a U Boat but I've recently realised that there was more
than one type and they differ a fair bit from mini U Boats to the Atlantic
version which has left me uncertain as to which U Boat was the classic &
most famous U Boat of them all, was it the VII/C-41 ?

Holger Kranich
Hi Choppy, yep i think the VII was the most famous...

"I´m not in the condition to phuck..." My favorite sentence from "Das Boot"!😄

Hanno Kleinecke
@Choppa : Type VII C and C41 , 659 of them built . Although the most successful ones like U 48 , U 47, U 99,
And U 100 were the of the earlier VII B type.

Choppa Nutta
aha thanks chaps, so this is the kit for me then 😄

Some of them look very different to each other, like the mini ones.
So which one was the Atlantic version and how many of them looked liked the VII/C ?
and which had the anti aircraft gun on the front ?
or am I imagining that detail ? 😄

Ivo Fanczi
I would say the type VII was the Most produced type but there are many different types that are interesting for example seehund/biber/neger/VII B/IXC/XXII/XXIII/ and so on.... Call me the submarine Nerd☺☺ if i we're asked in german about subs i could explain it much better ...shame on me because of my bad english ☺☺

Choppa Nutta
..shame on me because I only speak English😉

Ivo Fanczi
Lol ☺☺

Hanno Kleinecke
Choppa, like I said 659type VII boats were built, looking more or less the same except for various variants of AA arrangements aft of the conning tower. The bow gun was not for AA purposes . It was part of the offensive armament against vessels, and deleted later in during the war. Some of the later VIIs were equipped with a snorkel at the bow. Type VII and IX were designed for atlantic operations but the IXs were a lot bigger and had a far greater range, allowing them to operate off the coast of the USA and even in the southern Atlantic and the Indian ocean. Some of them were based in Indonesia and Japan. The VII and IX boats took part in Operation
Paukenschlag ( Drumbeat ) in 1941 in US waters, the VII were supplied by special submarine tankers Type XIV ( " Milk Cows " ) later during the war to reach distant waters.

Ivo Fanczi
Everything he said is right......another Nerd☺☺☺
By the way the VII C 41 that i build is with a snorkel .

Hanno Kleinecke
Oh right, I didn't look into your album 😳.. I 'm in for this one. Is there any aftermarket PE available for this version, or is there any included in the kit ? Yes, you really could call me a nerd for German subs I suppose..... I think they really look great, and the stories behind them are tragic but very interesting . Not very many books about this subject I didn't read..... 🙂

Ivo Fanczi
Keine ätzteile im bausatz. Zurüstsätze ich denke ja die gibt es wenn nicht für die c/41version dann bestimmt für das
" normale"VIIC von Revell ,ich glaube von CMK gibt es verschiedene Sachen (Kombüse/Torpedosektion/Maschienenraum usw.)
☺☺soweit so gut☺☺s... h... und fette beute!

Hanno Kleinecke
Lol, Gute Jagd Ihr Himmelhunde ! 🙂

Ivo Fanczi
☺☺

Ivo Fanczi
I cant do more today its to hot i have 31°C in my buildingroom .
Im sweating and cant concentrate me on my work.

Clifford Keesler
It sure is looking nice!.

Ivo Fanczi
Thx ,Clifford

Hanno Kleinecke
Tarnung sieht klasse aus Ivo ! Hast Du ein bestimmtes Boot im Auge, das Du darstellen willst ? Schönes Profilbild übrigens !

Ivo Fanczi
Ja hab ich , U 997 würde ich gerne machen, aber es herrscht das klassische Problem der Farbgebung und der Mangel an Fotos im Netz . Dankeschön wegen dem Profilbild.

Ivo Fanczi
Hanno das Problem mit der Farbgebung ist die hellen Stellen auf dem Boot mit den Mäandern wird im plan angegeben mit einer Mischung aus Weiß (98%) und Mittelgrau (2%) ICH denke aber das während des Krieges es nicht möglich war an so komplizierte Farbmischungen ranzukommen und bestimmt Weiß verwendet wurde z.B. die Tirpitz hat schon ein kompliziertes Tarnschema aber auch nur RAL-Farbtöne ,deswegen habe ich Weiß verwendet. Laut einem Buch über U 997 ist die die Farbgebung der Boote die in der Nordmeerflotte im Einsatz standen recht gleich und beziehen sich alle auf RAL-Farbtöne (wilde Tarnschemata wie bei der Tirpitz und U 997 gab es nur von 1942 bis Mitte 43) so genug von Farbe und Tarnschemen das macht mich ganz dumm😉

Hanno Kleinecke
Ich denke Du liegst da schon richtig mit Deinen Überlegungen. Damals wurde bestimmt nicht viel Federlesens gemacht, und genommen was verfügbar war. Nach zwei Wochen in See war sowieso alles Roststreifig und abgewaschen.......

Ivo Fanczi
Dank dir das mir jemand zustimmt bei dem Thema. 🙂

Colin Phillips
Very nice

Ivo Fanczi
Does someone know the colours from the turretlamps (tower) one side is red and the other side ??? green ??? And are the Lamps on the back red too? The one on the tower and the lamp on the rear

Hanno Kleinecke
Hi Ivo, Steuerbord Grün, Backbord Rot. Hecklaterne ist weiß.

Ivo Fanczi
Danke Hanno, jetzt kann ich weitermachen mit den Details; )

Hanno Kleinecke
Immer gerne, viel Spaß ! 🙂

Ivo Fanczi
Hanno,ich hab nochmal im plan nachgeschaut.....und backbord rot richtig Achtung jetzt kommt's steuerbord blau lol 🙂
Danke nochmals ich hab erst gedacht ich liege mit rot und grün total falsch zum glück hab ich es nicht so gemacht wie im plan🙂

Hanno Kleinecke
Lol, da war Herr Revell wohl blau....... ((((( 😄 ))))). Ist grundsätzlich bei allen Schiffen und Flugzeugen dasselbe. Bei allen motorgetriebenen Überwasserschiffen kommt am Mast auch noch eine weiße Dampferlaterne dazu, ab 50 Metern Länge auch noch eine zweite .

Ivo Fanczi
Okay gut zu wissen mit der Laterne auch mit der zweiten ab 50m des mit Rot und Grün wusste ich doch blau hat mich total aus dem Konzept gebracht 🙂

Ivo Fanczi
Thank you,Colin

Clifford Keesler
Very nice boat!

Ivo Fanczi
Thank you Clifford,i try to do my best 🙂

Leif Adams
This beauty should be in the movies.

Ivo Fanczi
Lol,when you say so ,thank you Leif

Choppa Nutta
loving the teaser photo of it coming right out of the box 🙂

Ulf Petersen
" Junge Junge! Du willst es aber genau wissen!"😉
Schönes Boot, Herr Kaleun!👍

Ivo Fanczi
Danke Ulf,Thank you Choppa 🙂

Ivo Fanczi
Thx,James

Holger Kranich
180 liegen an, Herr Kaleu!
Das muss das Boot abkönnen... Great work, Ivo!🙂

Ivo Fanczi
🙂 danke Holger.

Kerry COX
Ivo, it looks like it's just come back from patrolling the west coast of America, 🙂
AND THE TORPEDO !!!!! OMG
So good mate ! 🙂

Ivo Fanczi
Thank you, Kerry

Kerry COX
The art work on the conning tower, where did that come from ?

Ivo Fanczi
From the Revell -kit Decalsheet It comes with the kit

Kerry COX
Bloody amazing. I love it. 🙂

Ivo Fanczi
I'm not sure if the torpedo got the right color?

Holger Kranich
😉 de.wikipedia.org/wiki/G7_(Torpedo)

Ivo Fanczi
😢 Danke Holger da lag ich nicht ganz falsch mit meiner Auswahl an Farben 🙂

Hanno Kleinecke
Ohoo, Spitzenidee, der Torpedoschuß !!! Daß war's also ! Da hat Dein To - Maat aber wohl vergessen den Ausstoßkolben einzusetzen ? Sieht Klasse aus ! 🙂

Ivo Fanczi
Danke Hanno, tja der To Maat... aber so kleinlich bin ich jetzt doch nicht😉

Ivo Fanczi
Lol und so lange das Personal die Mundungsklappen öffnet ist alles in Ordnung. 🙂

Clifford Keesler
That is so cool!.

Ivo Fanczi
Thank you very much, Clifford

Christian Ristits
Really an excellent job and I really like the torpedo-scene!

Ivo Fanczi
Thx Christian

Roberto Rocat
Lovely 👍

Ivo Fanczi
Thank you, Roberto

Choppa Nutta
awesome !

Ivo Fanczi
Thanks James and Choppa

Ulf Petersen
Great work, Ivo!👍
Some pictures of better quality would be much appreciated. The given ones don't live up to the level of your model at all.

Kerry COX
Totally agree Ulf.🙂

Ivo Fanczi
Sorry Ulf,Kerry i have no money for a new camera, i use my Mobile phone to make pics. I'm more busy to buy new kits😉

Choppa Nutta

Ulf does have a point, if you lean against something to hold the camera steadier that would be a big help 🙂

Another suggestion might be to set the resolution to maximum on your phone and move away from the model a bit more that way both ends of the sub will more likely be in focus at the same time 🙂

Another suggestion might be to invite a friend over with a decent camera who knows how to use it 😄

Ivo Fanczi
Thank you Choppa for the helpful tipps .😢

Ivo Fanczi
Are all pictures in bad quality? Write me the number than i will make some new.

Choppa Nutta
The focus is out quite badly on most of them to be honest, sorry but it is true 🙂
A good idea is to take loads and loads of photos, several from the same spot,

- bang ! bang ! bang ! bang ! bang ! bang ! - next position ... repeat -

go through them all on a decent sized screen, phone screen cannot be trusted for checking quality, discarding the shite and selecting the best, retaking some angles if needed etc.

Another factor is poor-low light and with automatic cameras like phone cameras (usually) the shutter opens for longer which means any movement holding the camera will be exaggerated,
Solution - get good a light, 200 watts minimum 🙂

Ivo Fanczi
I understand what youre meaning, but I am an Modeller not an photograph😉 maybe i'm on the wrong website😉

Choppa Nutta
haha well we can definitely see you can model very well indeed, well almost see😉 hehe 😄
Never hurts to present well though and observing a few basics can yield big benefits 🙂

Anyhow, great subject and finish, love the torpedo action, very novel but effective feature 🙂

Ivo Fanczi
😢 sorry for the bad quality of the pictures😉 I promise i try to get better pictures from the next project 😉 by the way thank you Choppa

Choppa Nutta
it's a great model, deserves to be well presented 🙂

Clifford Keesler
It's Awesome Ivo, I love it.

Ivo Fanczi
Thank you Clifford

Ivo Fanczi
Hey Clifford would you say the pictures are all in bad quality?

Ivo Fanczi
I need youre opinion😉 when you say the pictures all have bad quality i need to do something quick. 🙂

Clifford Keesler
I don't think they are all bad. You have the same problem I do, I take bad pictures to. Part of it is me part is my camera. I have to make sure I am very still when I take the pictures,or they are out of focous. I did notice some of yours are the same way. Try to make sure you hold still while you are taking them. Choppa is always giving me a hard time about my pictures. LOL. He means well.

Choppa Nutta
Sorry chaps, I didn't mean to be too forthright 🙂

Low light is the main difficulty I reckon as means long exposure times and any movement is exaggerated.
Setting the resolution to maximum, moving the camera further away and trimming the image afterwards is an easier way of doing close ups too.

Well anyhow Ivo, like Clifford says they're not all bad but a few simple things will help greatly, and yeah, I definitely mean well guys, take it is a compliment chaps, I think you both do good work that deserves decent photography😉

Ivo Fanczi
Ok mates, i will practice and i try to get better pictures in the next project. 🙂