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47 9 April 2023, 19:07
Marius
Good luck Andy!
The Algerian is interesting, but in case you need more inspiration, there were a couple of metallic Egyptian ones with colorful tails and interesting unit markings.
This decal sheet here is particularly well documented:
MiG-17 Around The World - As.. I (ModelMaker D72155, 1:72)
And preview pictures of the instructions can be found here:
super-hobby.de/produ..27.html?partner_id=9
And btw, I am not sure if this is of interest to you, but the seat from the Airfix kit is wrong. It's a weird representation of a KK-1 seat which the MiG-17 never had in the series production. You would need a KK-2 seat, which is offered by Pavla or Amigo Models, but it's very very difficult to find anywhere.
Good luck Andy!
The Algerian is interesting, but in case you need more inspiration, there were a couple of metallic Egyptian ones with colorful tails and interesting unit markings.
This decal sheet here is particularly well documented:
MiG-17 Around The World - As.. I (ModelMaker D72155, 1:72)
And preview pictures of the instructions can be found here:
super-hobby.de/produ..27.html?partner_id=9
And btw, I am not sure if this is of interest to you, but the seat from the Airfix kit is wrong. It's a weird representation of a KK-1 seat which the MiG-17 never had in the series production. You would need a KK-2 seat, which is offered by Pavla or Amigo Models, but it's very very difficult to find anywhere.
11 April 2023, 09:17
Andy Ball
Thanks Marius, the decals aren't in the best of registers either.I wanted to do aluminium to again test my skills in this medium. I'd heard about the seat issues, and with the one supplied. Perhaps I'll check the differences to see if there's a wprk-around?, do you know of any?
Thanks Marius, the decals aren't in the best of registers either.I wanted to do aluminium to again test my skills in this medium. I'd heard about the seat issues, and with the one supplied. Perhaps I'll check the differences to see if there's a wprk-around?, do you know of any?
11 April 2023, 10:16
Robert Podkoński
Taking a seat, of course! 😉 (in the near future I intend to mash up the Kovozavody and the Airfix kits in order to build the proper Polish "Last of the LiM's")
Taking a seat, of course! 😉 (in the near future I intend to mash up the Kovozavody and the Airfix kits in order to build the proper Polish "Last of the LiM's")
11 April 2023, 17:49
Andy Ball
Robert, can't you do it through the Airfix with some aftermarkets? I've pretty much assembled it today/yesterday- the fit is pretty good. Not sure if it was me or the kit, but some attention to filling around the nose is all so far….
Robert, can't you do it through the Airfix with some aftermarkets? I've pretty much assembled it today/yesterday- the fit is pretty good. Not sure if it was me or the kit, but some attention to filling around the nose is all so far….
12 April 2023, 16:29
Robert Podkoński
It is simply because I have had Kovozavody kit in my stash 😉 - the decals are better (the ones included in Airfix kit are not wholly adequate...), yet Airfix is much more modeller-friendly, as you've proven this above 🙂
It is simply because I have had Kovozavody kit in my stash 😉 - the decals are better (the ones included in Airfix kit are not wholly adequate...), yet Airfix is much more modeller-friendly, as you've proven this above 🙂
12 April 2023, 17:08
Andy Ball
@Robert- good to know, and hope we'll see it soon.
@Cuajete- more done tonight on account of your encouragement!
Thanks Slavo!!
It could be a quick build?
@Robert- good to know, and hope we'll see it soon.
@Cuajete- more done tonight on account of your encouragement!
Thanks Slavo!!
It could be a quick build?
12 April 2023, 22:15
Cuajete
I agree with Bernd. I also prefer the Cambodian one for the red ray, although the Algerian would also look very good in Andy's master hands. That snake and the grey-upper over aluminium could be very nice 👍
Waiting for the next progress.
I agree with Bernd. I also prefer the Cambodian one for the red ray, although the Algerian would also look very good in Andy's master hands. That snake and the grey-upper over aluminium could be very nice 👍
Waiting for the next progress.
13 April 2023, 18:36
Bernhard Pethe
Ich schaue da mal mit zu.
Die R-3S an der MiG-17 finde ich interessant. Kannte ich bis jetzt nicht. Sicher eine koreanische "Erfindung" .
Ich schaue da mal mit zu.
Die R-3S an der MiG-17 finde ich interessant. Kannte ich bis jetzt nicht. Sicher eine koreanische "Erfindung" .
13 April 2023, 18:51
Andy Ball
Thanks Sukhoi242 and the others for having a look.
Gentlemen- I love the suggestions for decals, but on inspection the Cambodian ones are off register, the N Korean and Algerian are about the best to use on a '17F….watch this space!
Thanks @Cortex!
Thanks Sukhoi242 and the others for having a look.
Gentlemen- I love the suggestions for decals, but on inspection the Cambodian ones are off register, the N Korean and Algerian are about the best to use on a '17F….watch this space!
Thanks @Cortex!
13 April 2023, 20:32
Andy Ball
I won't be making any Korean sidewinder "look-a-likes", Bernhard, the Dear Leader wouldn't assist with the blueprints
I won't be making any Korean sidewinder "look-a-likes", Bernhard, the Dear Leader wouldn't assist with the blueprints
13 April 2023, 20:55
Andy Ball
Thanks Helio and everyone else….I'm pretty much done with this. Overall a quick and relatively painless build.
Thanks Helio and everyone else….I'm pretty much done with this. Overall a quick and relatively painless build.
17 April 2023, 21:23
Andy Ball
Thank-you Cuajete, I'm saying 'done' and will reflect on whether to weather it!
Thank-you Cuajete, I'm saying 'done' and will reflect on whether to weather it!
18 April 2023, 20:17
Maciej Bellos
Should you weather it, "Dear Leader" will probably have some "words" with you...
Lovely result Andy!
Should you weather it, "Dear Leader" will probably have some "words" with you...
Lovely result Andy!
18 April 2023, 23:26
Robert Podkoński
That NMF looks great, Andy! (but Soviet-build planes never looked shiny, as they were covered with some 'protective' transparent lacquer, to the best of my knowledge. Here you can see few museum examples: Polish Air Force Museum - Dęblin | Album by podkon - it's up to you, whether to tone down the shine or not. Personally, I would leave the NMF as it is now 😉 )
That NMF looks great, Andy! (but Soviet-build planes never looked shiny, as they were covered with some 'protective' transparent lacquer, to the best of my knowledge. Here you can see few museum examples: Polish Air Force Museum - Dęblin | Album by podkon - it's up to you, whether to tone down the shine or not. Personally, I would leave the NMF as it is now 😉 )
19 April 2023, 05:42
Andy Ball
Thanks Ogre-Trombone!
In glorious utopian make-kingdom of Socialist Republic I will leave as is for now. The dear leader may have expected the guns to have fired at the fascist whores south of his border, so perhaps a little gun smoke, Marciej?
@Robert: I love the fact the Polish would not polish their MiGs…get it?…@ Bernd, vielen danke mein Freund!
Thanks Ogre-Trombone!
In glorious utopian make-kingdom of Socialist Republic I will leave as is for now. The dear leader may have expected the guns to have fired at the fascist whores south of his border, so perhaps a little gun smoke, Marciej?
@Robert: I love the fact the Polish would not polish their MiGs…get it?…@ Bernd, vielen danke mein Freund!
19 April 2023, 06:20
Marius
Andy, that's actually a really good looking MiG-17! Congratulations on the very good looking model! I don't remember seeing a North Korean one too often.
For the sake of the discussiom, I'll also add a short comment regarding the shininess: Robert is right that they were covered from the factory (together with all MiG-15s, and early MiG-21s) with a varnish coat mixed with a metallic pouder (5%-10%). The result varied depending on the factory. Nevertheless, I am not convinced that the museum pieces from Robert's link are that representative though, since some are repainted in actual silver while those which weren't are of course afected by the age (Aluminium turns really matt after some decades).
Overall, if we're looking at photographs from the 50s-60s, there were several skin panels which were somewhat shiny, but many rather semi-matt.
One fast example:
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But if I were you, I wouldn't change anything anymore, you model looks very good the way it is and taking photographs of models in NMF is in itself a bit tricky sometimes due ot lightning, at least in my case.
Andy, that's actually a really good looking MiG-17! Congratulations on the very good looking model! I don't remember seeing a North Korean one too often.
For the sake of the discussiom, I'll also add a short comment regarding the shininess: Robert is right that they were covered from the factory (together with all MiG-15s, and early MiG-21s) with a varnish coat mixed with a metallic pouder (5%-10%). The result varied depending on the factory. Nevertheless, I am not convinced that the museum pieces from Robert's link are that representative though, since some are repainted in actual silver while those which weren't are of course afected by the age (Aluminium turns really matt after some decades).
Overall, if we're looking at photographs from the 50s-60s, there were several skin panels which were somewhat shiny, but many rather semi-matt.
One fast example:
[img1]
But if I were you, I wouldn't change anything anymore, you model looks very good the way it is and taking photographs of models in NMF is in itself a bit tricky sometimes due ot lightning, at least in my case.
19 April 2023, 11:46
Andy Ball
Thanks Cuajete!!, and Marius - do you think a coat of semi-gloss may help tone it down, or matt even?
Thanks Cuajete!!, and Marius - do you think a coat of semi-gloss may help tone it down, or matt even?
19 April 2023, 20:58
Andy Ball
Patryk S: both myself and the Respected Comrade General Secretary thank-you for your like.
Patryk S: both myself and the Respected Comrade General Secretary thank-you for your like.
21 May 2023, 11:45
Łukasz Gliński
We definitely deserve more pics from the Dearest Leader's inspection 👍
We definitely deserve more pics from the Dearest Leader's inspection 👍
25 May 2023, 15:00
Andy Ball
Due to the Imperial Fascists blockade of SD card technologies- we may need to wait….
Thanks Connor for the look
Due to the Imperial Fascists blockade of SD card technologies- we may need to wait….
Thanks Connor for the look
25 May 2023, 18:22