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Marius
Beware of the painting guide/subject/marking selection. The number #1 option is incorrect, while the options #3 and #4 are 100% fiction and never existed. To be more precise about each marking option from the instructions:

#1. Egyptian (UARAF) MiG-19s were NOT metallic, but delivered in grey paint ("Russian Air Superiority Grey"). The later ones received from Irak were also grey. The identification stripes were definitely black with no white background.

#2. There are plenty of photographs with the new Shenyangs J-6 painted like this in the 80's, so you can check for yourself.

#3. Egypt/UARAF had no Shenyangs J-6 until the late 70's, so there was none in 1967. Also, there was absolutely no camouflage paint ever applied by Egypt neither on the MiG-19s nor on the Chinese copies other than the already presented marking #2 in the 80's. So the description of the type, year and painting suggestions are all inventions.

#4. Syria never operated the MiG-19, so there never was any MiG-19 with SyAAF markings. Neither during the UARAF period was there any common MiG-19 unit operating from Syria.
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Marius
Also, the cover art shows the fictive marking #3 while launching a R-3S ("Atoll") missile. The series MiG-19s did not have the capability to launch any missiles. There was nevertheless a specific prototype of a MiG-19S modified in the mid 1960s to test the missile launch process. Check this picture below:
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The entire test was actually aimed at the the future MiG-19P, since the last ever MiG-19S had already left the factory as early as 1959.
With other words, I am not aware of any country operating the Soviet MiG-19s which retrofitted their aircraft with the missile launch capability.

On the other hand, the Chinese managed to do that only in 1974 for their Shenyang J-6 and the modification was hastly implemented by the North Vietnamese in the same year as well (though no VPAF Shenyang J-6 actually fired any missile in combat during the Vietnam War).

So no MiG-19S (all of them) or Shenyang J-6s before 1974 had the missile launch capability.
3 December 2022, 18:17
Prieur Gaël
Hi Marius
you are talking about the gray "Russian Air Superiority Grey", can you direct me to a reference from Gunze, AK Real color or others. I found gray for Mig 31 and 29 but nothing for dy Mig 19...
Thanking you in advance.
16 December 2023, 10:39
Alec K
Yeah, unfortunately the new KP is known for shoddy research and errors in instructions. Thanks for the updated info 👍
17 December 2023, 20:09
Marius
Hello Prieur,

regarding the grey colour used for the MiG-19, I have only the following information: it's designatiom is AS-1115, later know by the name you mentioned. I checked the literature again and Tom Cooper gives the MRP-354 as a match.
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Basically the same color as some late MiG-21s. Nevertheless, be aware that paint quality changed over the decades and at least the gred paint applied on MiG-19s used to develop some local bluish tones due to fatigue (age, heat, friction, etc), accorsing to accounts of Egyptian crews from the 1960s. For my own project, I chose a slightly more bluish overall impression. Probably it's not that accurate either.

MiG-19S - Egypt - 1967 | Album by Redicus (1:72)

Cheers, Marius
18 December 2023, 04:43
Prieur Gaël
thanks Marius
18 December 2023, 12:55
Usman Ansari
This book has some colour prints and information that seem a little close to the decal options, so perhaps this is where KP got its inspiration from?

abebooks.com/9781841..ombat-1841766550/plp
5 August, 17:47
Marius
Hello Usman,

that is true indeed. The authors of that book are the very well known David Nicolle and Tom Cooper, publishers of very numerous high quality works regarding Arab armed forces. Nevertheless, that very specific book originates in the prehistorics of their research of Arab air forces, when a signifficant amount of today's information and known historical photographs did not come to surface yet. Tom Cooper admits himself that that specific book is just full of mistakes and wrong aircraft color profiles (see for example some fictious Syrian MiG-21s in tri-color camouflage with roundels on fuselage).

Just to wrap it up, there is not one single photographic evidence nor recollaction/reports of the era showing or mentioning any UARAF MiG-19 painted differently than in the grey colour mentioned in my original post above, so not even in a natural metal finish. There are a few published photographs of Egyptian MiG-19s from the 1960s in the much newer books "Arab MiGs" (Volumes 2 and 3) and " MiGs in the Middle East" Volume 2 by the same two authors. Since many Egyptian MiG-19 originated from Iraq, there are a few more such pictures with the Iraqi MiG-19s in "Wings of Iraq" Volume 2.

Cheers
Marius
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