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PVA-KNIL Deperdussin-Léon de Brouckère Monoplane

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67 22 May 2022, 17:25
Alex K
Ah... taking a seat...
 22 May 2022, 17:55
bughunter
Watching! Have the same kit (also the puzzle edition) in my stash.
This engine seems to be a good match? Gnome 7 Omega (50 hp) Engine (Small Stuff 48105, 1:48)
And SM has nice walk arounds attached to the topic.

48105
 
 22 May 2022, 18:12
Ben M
Ah, thank you, bughunter, and welcome, Alex. I will go hunting for pictures of other Deperdussins with the cowling. I think I will cut a semicircle of thin plastic for the back, and form a strip of brass to make the curved part. Here is the patent for the "Emailite" dope which the KNIL required Léon de Brouckère to use to finish the aircraft: patents.google.com/p..ISH+EMAILLITE+Co+Ltd
 22 May 2022, 18:18
Robert Podkoński
Can I take a seat in a first row? 😉
 22 May 2022, 19:42
Ben M
Reference pics, image search here: duckduckgo.com/?q=de..type%20b&t=brave
 19 October 2022, 03:37
Jan Peters
Nice subject Ben! Watching with great interest
 19 October 2022, 04:30
Robert Podkoński
If I can suggest something with respect to spoked wheels, Ben - try to find gaskets of the adequate diameter. I used them with my scratchbuilds: Scratchbuilding attempts | Album by podkon
 19 October 2022, 05:59
Bruce Huxtable
Goodness, plenty of challenges here! Looks like the front row is filling up, so I'll squeeze in behind 🙂
 19 October 2022, 06:01
Ben M
Some good suggestions.
 20 October 2022, 02:21
Lawrence Landis
I found some 3D printed World War 1 type of wheels from a company in Greece. If you are interested, I can forward the information to you.
 27 June 2023, 01:54
Ben M
I'm interested!
 27 June 2023, 12:19
bughunter
May be the Gaspatch (comes from Greek) ones are meant?
Palmer 700x75 Spoked Wheels (GasPatch Models 19-48222, 1:48)
But that is a British type late of war, with may spokes.

19-48222
 
 27 June 2023, 12:33
Lawrence Landis
The company is called GasPatch models.
I purchased mine for a Life-Like kit of the Avro Triplane. Because the plane has a four wheel landing gear, I had to purchase two sets. Each set includes two wheels and two tires.
The set that I purchased is listed as Palmer 700 X 75 spoked wheels.
This kit is on my "to-do" list, but when I saw the pictures on line, I decided that if I was going to build it, I wasn't going to settle for the kit wheels.
 27 June 2023, 12:45
bughunter
Oh yes 👍
BTW, why the pic 7 correct in the Newsfeed, but rotated in album view?!?
 1 October 2023, 15:58
Ben M
I can't figure that out!
 1 October 2023, 19:01
Ben M
The intense masking to paint ribs came out pretty good
 28 March, 04:23
Lochsa River
checking this out.....

make the puzzle!

Lindberg Deperdussin 1911 | Album by Lochsa_River (1:48)
 28 March, 05:09
Ben M
Yours looks really great! I gave the puzzle to my kid.
 28 March, 22:27
Ben M
I found the fate of this aircraft: aviation-safety.net/wikibase/224165
 5 April, 23:24
Skyhiker
Taking a seat
 4 May, 16:40
Ben M
Next I need to scratch a cowling for the engine; the kit version doesn't have one, but the pva-knil aircraft did.
 4 May, 18:17
Alex K
Some very nice work going on here, Ben... 👍
 4 May, 19:44
Ben M
Thank you, Alex!
 4 May, 20:05
Lawrence Landis
Great work
 7 May, 18:47
Ben M
I rigged the left side elevator and then realized the rudder rigging will have to go inboard of it. Maybe should have used thicker line to make it stand out more but I think this is closer to scale. But the model itself is so coarse it's hard to say.
 19 May, 12:57
Lawrence Landis
Primitive kits give us the greatest creative flexibility.
 19 May, 21:14
Lawrence Landis
In my opinion.
 19 May, 21:15
Ben M
I tend to get them as I enjoy painting more than building
 19 May, 22:46
Ethan Flory
Looking good, Ben!
 20 May, 01:52
Michael Kohl
Following
 21 May, 09:32
Ben M
The rigging is basically invisible, so I tried a white background. I wonder why I'm bothering with something I can't see 😂
 24 May, 01:44
Robert Podkoński
Fantastic job so far, Ben! You're approaching the finish line...
 24 May, 05:47
gorby
Remarkable work knocking this ancient kit into shape.
 24 May, 08:15
Erik Leijdens
Hi Ben very interested in this one! I've been away for a while and missed this one. Great progress! Always nice to see KNIL subject
 25 May, 07:28
David Taylor
I'm in.
 25 May, 08:20
Skyhiker
Looking nice
 25 May, 20:51
Bruce Huxtable
Very impressive work on the rigging, Ben. This is a gem for sure 🙂
 25 May, 20:57
Bernhard Schrock
Outstanding result for such stone age kit. 🙂
 25 May, 20:58
Michael Kohl
Absolutely
 25 May, 21:34
Ben M
Alright, I'm calling this one done.
 25 May, 22:57
Alex K
Outstanding!!! Fantastic work, Ben! Congrats - respects!!! 👍 👍
 25 May, 22:58
Ben M
Nothing is straight on this model. The resin engine was a bit beyond my skillset, I was not able to get the little spigots on the block for the valve rods to go in place. I object to it being stone age. It came out the year I was born. It took me two years to complete it, a measure of how chaotic my life has been and how little time I have had to work on things. First time I tried painting ribs. A bit crude, unfortunately, I think. Also first time I painted insignia instead of using decals.
 25 May, 23:02
Robert Podkoński
Looks beautiful, Ben! Fantastic job!
 26 May, 06:15
Curatorm
Such exquisite...
 26 May, 07:04
Neuling
A work of art.
 26 May, 08:16
David Taylor
Brill.
 26 May, 09:13
Lochsa River
great result.....pilot figure will be added?
 26 May, 09:17
Ben M
Thank you kind people. I wasn't happy with the pilot figure in the kit, so I opted against one. The build was interesting in that I got to try so many new things. Also it was the first time I worked with CA accelerator.

One thing I need to find a way to do better is painting ribs. The 1mm tamiya tape produced a result that's a bit too coarse. I can't imagine using finer tape so I'll have to come up with a different approach.
 26 May, 11:32
Lawrence Landis
A possible solution would be to mask each side of the rib with photo frisket to give you a line to paint or the vinyl type of Tamiya tape may give you a crisper line. If I ever build my Avro Triplane, I will let you know what works for me.😎
 27 May, 12:08
Guy Rump
Beautiful modelling. 👍
 27 May, 15:17
Peter Grudiae
That is wonderful work, bravo!
 28 May, 09:52
bughunter
Great work all around 👍
May be a bit late: Regarding the engine, have you checked out the full build guide linked in the manual? It gives some nice hints.
 28 May, 19:19
Ben M
Hi bughunter, yes I did. Unfortunately my eyesight and hand tremors appear to be the limiting factors. Maybe with more practice I will improve.
 28 May, 20:32
CaptGPF
Absolutely stunning! I loved the careful and methodical process to get the color effects right. The rigging is flawless - which is an art form in its own right. ❤️❤️❤️
 24 August, 14:30
Ben M
Thank you! I learned a lot about rigging from Elias K while building an earlier model, and bughunter gave me several tips on this model. While it's far from perfect, it was very enjoyable, and I'm happy with the result.
 24 August, 14:42
Mr D
She's great 😃 👍👍 brilliant "little " build executed well🤨
 24 August, 16:13

Album info

The first aircraft evaluated by the Proefvliegafdeling-KNIL, (PVA-KNIL - a precursor for the ML-KNIL) in 1915, in order to see if this was a useful technology for the Netherlands East Indies. The aircraft was built by Belgian aviation pioneer Léon de Brouckère. I have read that this plane never flew, or that it never flew in the Netherlands, only in Belgium. I have only been able to locate one picture of the aircraft and it looks flightworthy. I have also read that due to the outbreak of WWI, the aircraft were disassembled and sent to the Netherlands for the duration of the war. Certainly this aircraft was never shipped to the Netherlands East Indies - any and all evaluation by the PVA-KNIL was done in Europe. The aircraft was covered with Emaillite dope, and is described as a dark brownish yellow. At this time the national insignia consisted of an orange disc. However the single picture I have located of this aircraft does not show any markings. However this may be due to a lack of contrast between the brown and orange. I am undecided on what I will do here. The Lindberg model is of the 1911 version and some changes will be required to model the 1915 version as built by de Brouckère.

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1:48 Deperdussin 1911 (Lindberg HL506/12)

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